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So are the Dark Souls servers just shut down for good?
It's been almost 3 months. No word on when the multiplayer servers for Dark Souls 1-3 are coming back online. Are they just permanently offline from now on?
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I got you boo. I got you.

Look at the number of active players in Elden Ring. Now go back and check Dark Souls Remastered, Dark Souls 2, etc... even before the servers went down we saw numbers between 1200 and 5000 on the regular. Now we see over 300,000 in Elden Ring right now. It's the new hot ticket item.

At the end of the the day From Software is a business. When ♥♥♥♥ goes wrong they have to make the best business decision. Getting Elden Ring optimized, secure, with raytraced lighting and such all turned on is critical right NOW. There are people who won't buy the game if they don't keep hammering those out RIGHT NOW.

Past souls games have already made their money. Getting the servers back online will mostly benefit a few thousand fans at any given minute, and for few new dollars. Maybe not even enough to cover the man hours back porting the networking code changes to every older game, which then has to be recompiled, tested, and redeployed.

They will get to the older games, but with so few players actually using them the online component the fix will come AFTER they've finished polishing Elden Ring, which still needs some major optimization, and previously announced features aren't even enabled yet, meaning every coder on staff is probably already dedicated to THAT.
The flame 🔥 is unlit, it has been smothered. The age of darkness is upon us.
ledRid 2022年4月4日 9時31分 
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that's depressing, there isn't many games i'm willing to pay a subscription for but if it kept the dark souls servers on id do it in a heartbeat
ledRid 2022年4月4日 10時00分 
lmao "you enjoy a game and don't mind supporting it? here is a jester reward" how retarded do you have to be...
I heard the server for DS 3 is gone. I reloaded the game and found all my previous characters gone too. That was a month or so ago. Heard it is still gone.
The RCE exploit has been published, and it's worse than you might think. Anyone would've been susceptible just by being online, not just invaders. maybe that's why they aren't bringing servers back online.

ReBootXD の投稿を引用:
I’ve been praying to every God of every religion for the return of the servers, surely one of them will answer

The Divine Nine will make it happen one day, you'll see!
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If they are I'd be pretty pissed and sad. The least they could do is make it so only the password system works so you could still play with friends.
Deadweight の投稿を引用:
Think people mentioned that they removed the multiplayer tag from all of them. Hope that doesn't mean they're just dropping them.
I mentioned that in DS3 forum.
I believe Valve did that for new owerns of the game.
My gripe was that From/B-N did n't put text atop the page stating that servers are down to fix an issue and have an unknown eta.



psilocybe の投稿を引用:
They'd have to completely recode how peer-to-peer connections function..

which would also mean lots of internal testing.


So, yeah, probably gone for good.
Better for a modder to figure it out and sell the code to them.
I don't believe it shouldn't be peer-to-peer any longer, not with their track record, not with their experience. The only agreed way to create the most secure experience for players is a server-client where the server does everything the client only sends the input to the server and receives instructions from the server of what's going on, nothing more.

Maybe I'm wrong and they are capable of creating a secure peer-to-peer system for millions of players that's directed by the servers. In that case I'm sure they wouldn't object to having several 3rd party companies run audits on their code.
There is no indication that they are down for good. While they haven't said much, they have said it is temporary until they look into it. They know WHAT the problem is, it's now just about manpower to go in and fix. That's all tied up in Elden Ring currently.

Fromsoftware is in dire need of expanding. They simply need more hands on deck, especially with the amount of fans Elden Ring brought in.
Fixing the netcode, to me is the #1 thing that should be fixed. It affects Elden Ring and future DLC and all future From titles and well they can not leave the servers die. souls-like is literally a genre now and they can not let the servers die or someone next year will take the reigns. 2023 looks amazing, so many games in development for 5 years or so and I think they're heavily influenced by Souls, BOTW & Sekiro.

If you picture what I said about the code. It's probably extremely difficult with their ten years of code all depending on their netcode. Their pushing it under the rug got them here. It's understandable, a studio's job is to create a fun game for the most amount of people. A public company's goal is to maximize profits. Yet if they want to be respected, they can't let their flagship die, people wouldn't touch DS4 or might strike if this isn't fixed.

They also can't let what happened again, and it seems like it could with the couple of exploits already discovered, or maybe those exploits couldn't evolve into what happened. Only they would know, sadly I don't trust that they know, which is why I mentioned auditors.

There's also another exploit to crash anothers game. That's because of bad netcode. Imagine that being put on the server as is and the server being crashed instead. Remember FO76 and can you imagine the Creation Engine being used there and the amount of bugs that game always had, then having those same devs creating the multiplayer for that game. Yea, hackers took down their servers sort-of how I explained it.

But server-client isn't unflawed. peer-to-peer has minimal latency, but you're depending that the dev created secure netcode and is monitoring things after the fact. server-client at least tells the gamer, ok we will assume responsibility here. it doesn't guarantee the player is secure, but it does say to the gamer that the company is at least willing to put themselves at the same risk that we do when playing their game.
Jork の投稿を引用:
they have no intention of fixing the RCE exploit properly, thus they're not going to bring it back
this is the truth. i imagine it would require each game to be re-released. it'd be that much work to do it properly. yet if they could do it for ALL of their games using the same code (as they do), it could be fixed forever for all of their titles and would not be an issue anymore.

to me. if they keep it peer-to-peer, it won't work. it's got to be server-client. plus they do that, that'd be one less thing keeping demon's souls or bloodborne coming to PC, which are like the top 2 games being requested to come to PC. and that could also be one less thing in the way of allowing cross-platform play.


server-client:
so the players location is saved on the server and the gamer's machine, when the player moved they sent input to the server, which verifies that input, updates the location on the server, and sends the new location to the gamer's machine. it can check the position on the gamer's machine with what's on the server to make sure it's not being altered.

peer-to-peer:
to my knowledge, the server as it exists only helps each client find another client. it doesn't restrict or filter the data sent between clients. I believe EAC is doing that. but it's not a long-term solution. it's should just be a temporary fix to get them through this while they fix everything from the ground up.
Senki 2022年4月4日 11時00分 
ledRid の投稿を引用:
lmao "you enjoy a game and don't mind supporting it? here is a jester reward" how retarded do you have to be...

about as retarded as someone that would pay subscriptions to play online dark souls
Any class action lawsuits underway to get the money back?
Timbermaw の投稿を引用:
Any class action lawsuits underway to get the money back?
No, FROM didn’t offend any media darlings so they won’t be dragged through the mud like others, yet
Jork 2022年4月4日 11時31分 
Timbermaw の投稿を引用:
Any class action lawsuits underway to get the money back?
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