Crashing in Borderless Windowed mode

[xRyner]

My game crashes when loading in or a minute into the game if I’m using Borderless Windowed Screen mode.

If I use full screen, it gives me a frame stutter issue, and kind of laggy. It also doesn’t let me alt tab and will crash if I try. Which is why I want Borderless Windowed.

The game has just felt really unstable the past week an half (anecdotal - possibly exacerbated by the constant crashing due to screen mode)

Things I’ve tried:

• Change Graphics settings from Low to Max
  
• Screen Mode to full screen, which stops crashing but gives frame stutter
  
• Checked File Integrity
  
• Uninstalled/Reinstalled
  
• Updated Graphics Drivers
  
• Windows settings up-to-date
  
• I don’t know what else to try.

PC Specs:

• Intel i7-11700K
  
• Ram: 32 GB
  
• Windows 10 - 21H2
  
• Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090
  
• Graphics Driver: 512.15
  
• Dual Monitors
  
• Main Monitor: 2560 x 1440, 165 Hz

[spigias]

You may try the github stutterfix or special k but you have to disable eac and play offline

[spigias]

Also try to disable all overlays steam,nvidia and close programs like msi afterburner

[xRyner]

Originally posted by spigias:

You may try the github stutterfix or special k but you have to disable eac and play offline

I'd prefer not to play offline if possible.

I'll try turning NVIDIA overlay off, I already dsiabled steams and have nothing else running

Update: Removing NVIDIA overlay made it last longer, but still crashed... Any other ideas?

[spigias]

1. remove RivaTuner if you are using it
2. disable Device Association Root Enumerator from device manager
3 remove epic launcher (sounds stupid but try it)

[xRyner]

Originally posted by spigias:

1. remove RivaTuner if you are using it
2. disable Device Association Root Enumerator from device manager
3 remove epic launcher (sounds stupid but try it)

I have none of those...

[VadeN]

1. Go to:
   

   ~\Steam\steamapps\common\ELDEN RING\Game

2. Right-click eldenring.exe and choose "Preferences" > "Compatability".
   
3. Check the box for "Inactivate full-screen optimization".
   
4. Choose "OK".

Next, open Settings in Windows and search for Xbox Game Bar and make sure it's deactivated.

[xRyner]

Originally posted by vadeN:

1. Go to:
   

   ~\Steam\steamapps\common\ELDEN RING\Game

2. Right-click eldenring.exe and choose "Preferences" > "Compatability".
   
3. Check the box for "Inactivate full-screen optimization".
   
4. Choose "OK".

Next, open Settings in Windows and search for Xbox Game Bar and make sure it's deactivated.

Thank you, it has Full Screen smooth as ♥♥♥♥, I can also alt+tab in full screen. Windowed Bordorless is still broke, but this will work! Do you know why that setting breaks the game?

[VadeN]

Originally posted by xRyner:

Originally posted by vadeN:

1. Go to:
   

   ~\Steam\steamapps\common\ELDEN RING\Game

2. Right-click eldenring.exe and choose "Preferences" > "Compatability".
   
3. Check the box for "Inactivate full-screen optimization".
   
4. Choose "OK".

Next, open Settings in Windows and search for Xbox Game Bar and make sure it's deactivated.

Thank you, it has Full Screen smooth as ♥♥♥♥, I can also alt+tab in full screen. Windowed Bordorless is still broke, but this will work! Do you know why that setting breaks the game?

Don't know why, just know i had a similiar problem with Valheim and that solution fixed it.

[xRyner]

Originally posted by vadeN:

Originally posted by xRyner:

Thank you, it has Full Screen smooth as ♥♥♥♥, I can also alt+tab in full screen. Windowed Bordorless is still broke, but this will work! Do you know why that setting breaks the game?

Don't know why, just know i had a similiar problem with Valheim and that solution fixed it.

Very weird, I'll put your solution as an update to the original post for any future users.

[xRyner]

Originally posted by csand:

Originally posted by xRyner:

Thank you, it has Full Screen smooth as ♥♥♥♥, I can also alt+tab in full screen. Windowed Bordorless is still broke, but this will work! Do you know why that setting breaks the game?

I have noticed on w10 a lot of game have issues with full screen windowed if steam overlay is enabled. Did you have steam overlay on?

No I turned all my Overlay's off and it didn't make any improvements.

[Gcd]

Originally posted by xRyner:

Originally posted by vadeN:

Don't know why, just know i had a similiar problem with Valheim and that solution fixed it.

Very weird, I'll put your solution as an update to the original post for any future users.

Researched an answer for you, because this weirdness bothers the heck out of me.

"Full Screen Optimization" tricks games into thinking it's running in full screen mode, but Windows really makes it run in borderless.

As you're already aware, borderless Window doesn't play nice with games and framerates at all.

Source: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/demystifying-full-screen-optimizations/

[xRyner]

Originally posted by vadeN:

Originally posted by xRyner:

Thank you, it has Full Screen smooth as ♥♥♥♥, I can also alt+tab in full screen. Windowed Bordorless is still broke, but this will work! Do you know why that setting breaks the game?

Don't know why, just know i had a similiar problem with Valheim and that solution fixed it.

Update: It worked the first time, but now crashes fullscreen. Any other ideas? MAybe I can test my GPU any ideas on how to do that?

[xRyner]

Originally posted by Gcd:

Originally posted by xRyner:

Very weird, I'll put your solution as an update to the original post for any future users.

"Full Screen Optimization" tricks games into thinking it's running in full screen mode, but Windows really makes it run in borderless.

As you're already aware, borderless Window doesn't play nice with games and framerates at all.

Source: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/demystifying-full-screen-optimizations/

Ah well it worked for a second... You have any ideas? I should maybe try eliminating hardware issues. Is there a good way to test my GPU do you know?