i think i'm done with this game

[Zorlin]

Radagon the starcourge/ EB.
No. That is all that needs to be said. This is the worst designed boss and perfectly encapsulates all the negative aspects Elden Ring's bosses has to offer.
1. runs away at every given opportunity like the fire giant
2. is wayyyy too big, to the point that I can't even tell what he's doing..
3. has unavoidable moves and when I mean unavoidable, I mean when he casts that stupid gold rain move and while you're trying to sprint to avoid the damage from that, he throws another attack out. So no matter what you do, you're going to take damage. Dodge to avoid the arc attack? Damage, keep running to avoid the rain and hope the arc won't hit you? Damage.
4. mechanics that aren't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ explained. Why the ♥♥♥♥ does holy damage heal this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥? I'm sorry, but the fact that he was on less than 20% health, and i accidentally hit him in a combo w/ my black knife and he suddenly regains bits of health back, that's when I set the controller down and said "yeah I think I'm done."
I can't imagine fighting this guy on new game, this is genuinely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ horrible. I'm starting to think all soulsborne players are masochists with the way they throw themselves are poorly designed bosses. I think I might have reached my limit here, I just don't think I have the willpower to deal with how busted this guy is. It's not like I'm underlevel, it's not like I don't have the technique or the tools, I just don't have the mental willpower to do this ♥♥♥♥ anymore. I beat Malenia on my third try, Radahn prenerf on my second try, and so many other relatively impressive feats, I'm not that bad at the game, but when I literally cannot counter the boss because they're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ impossibly out of screen, I just don't think I have it in me anymore. This boss has broken me, mostly because I have to go through a boss fight (radagon) just to get to it. Wait 15 seconds to skip a cutscene, and go through the boring tedium of beating radagon just to get onetapped by a Chaos-from-Sonic-Adventure wannabe headass from 16 km away by a golden shower of ♥♥♥♥-yous expressively delivered by fromsoft.
Good luck Tarnished, and carry on, but I have sincere doubts I will.

[Constitution Rules]

go watch the youtubes of people at level 1, destroying bosses and taking no damage, then you realize it can be done

[Zorlin]

Originally posted by Dargsy:

1. So run after him. Not every boss needs to ride your ♥♥♥♥. If the player can use ranged attacks, so should the enemy be able to.

2. You can still hit large enemies while the camera is tilted up.

3. None of the moves are unavoidable. Or else no hit runs wouldn't be possible. That aside, a lot of people forget there's a jump button in fights. That ring attack? You don't have to dodge through it. You can jump over it.

4. He heals from holy damage cause he's a holy being. What? Is a boss supposed to lay out rules before the fight? "Ok. So, I heal from holy damage. Just so you know and don't get angry when you try it. Also, I move a lot. Just letting you know. Alright, let's do it." It's trial and error. That's what all boss fights in all souls games have been.

1. what??? "just run after him" wtf kinda- no you can't be serious here, yes you run after him but he just continues to do that. it's not fun to run half way across the arena dodging the 3 or 4 attacks over and over again
2. I'm so at a loss for- dude, I mean when he flies up into the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stratosphere, even while locked on you can't see him or tell what he's going to do next!
3. I don't forget the jump button- it's just not practical to jump. Rolling is faster from a technical standpoint. Also again- no hit runs are possible because no hit runners are A) better than me by a large margin B) they're not wearing any form of armor whatsoever.
4. this is just straight up dickrider behavior, dude. The elden beast pulls out mechanics that aren't used in any portion of the game, the least they could do is give us some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ prewarning because no enemy whatsoever has ever healed from holy damage. it's out of the blue and stupid. it's just completely unjustifiable from a gameplay perspective to throw out random bits of mechanics that have no been introduced or even hinted at, being a thing.

[jasonbarron]

Originally posted by Zorlin3321:

man you guys honestly, earnestly, don't think the Elden Beast is broken?? are we playing two separate games? I feel like some level of intellectual dishonesty is at play here, this is a classic cameraboss mixed with ♥♥♥♥♥♥, cheesy moves and a garbage arena to boot. Everything about this boss screams no effort.

It all depends on how you're leveled, how your gear stacks up and so forth. Everyone is going to have a different experience based on those factors. I was 135 level and a damage dealing juggernaut and beat him in about 30-60 seconds on my second try. I'll give you one hint, though, that should help your prep for the fight: his primary damage is Holy. Mitigate that and the fight is easy if you're comparable skill and level.

[Mikebeez]

Originally posted by Zorlin3321:

man you guys honestly, earnestly, don't think the Elden Beast is broken?? are we playing two separate games? I feel like some level of intellectual dishonesty is at play here, this is a classic cameraboss mixed with ♥♥♥♥♥♥, cheesy moves and a garbage arena to boot. Everything about this boss screams no effort.

Funny thing is, I've killed these bosses 3 times and 2 out of the 3 attempts I didnt even get hit.....and I'm a 41 year old fart. Suggestion on big bosses, DO NOT USE THE LOCK ON AIM AGAINST THEM. It helps a ton. And like someone else mentioned, use your jump button. It does wonders.

[815|Shouldabeen]

lol

[Zorlin]

Originally posted by BaLuX:

Originally posted by Zorlin3321:

man you guys honestly, earnestly, don't think the Elden Beast is broken?? are we playing two separate games? I feel like some level of intellectual dishonesty is at play here, this is a classic cameraboss mixed with ♥♥♥♥♥♥, cheesy moves and a garbage arena to boot. Everything about this boss screams no effort.

What makes me wonder is how the F you beat Malenia on the 3rd try and you are struggling with the Elden Beast.

But tbf Malenia can be cheesed, Elden Beast cannot.

Malenia doesn't run away, and malienia doesn't have a torrent-sized arena. that's why, plus there's not a boss you have to before even attempting malenia's fight.
this boss fight was so unthought out it's unbelievable.
And the fact that people are just saying "git gud" when I'm literally at the end of the game is asinine, will people literally suck the ♥♥♥ out of Fromsoft's ♥♥♥♥ no matter what they do? I played DS1-3 and Sekiro, I know what difficulty is and is not. stop patronizing me and trying to be elitist, this fight is ass and you know it is. there's a thousand ways this boss would be less frustrating to deal with, letting us use torrent, putting a merchant note or something about the holy damage thing, giving us a maliketh-style fight where the elden beast bursts outside radagon at half health, anything would be better than guessing if it's going to elden stars or ring me while it's up in the air. anything would be better than having to slog through radagon just to make another attempt. anything would be then running for a solid 15 seconds across the arena just to get a slap or two in for it to vanish across the arena, cast elden stars, and you have to run across the arena after dodging it yet again.

[Zorlin]

Originally posted by Mikebeez:

Originally posted by Zorlin3321:

man you guys honestly, earnestly, don't think the Elden Beast is broken?? are we playing two separate games? I feel like some level of intellectual dishonesty is at play here, this is a classic cameraboss mixed with ♥♥♥♥♥♥, cheesy moves and a garbage arena to boot. Everything about this boss screams no effort.

Funny thing is, I've killed these bosses 3 times and 2 out of the 3 attempts I didnt even get hit.....and I'm a 41 year old fart. Suggestion on big bosses, DO NOT USE THE LOCK ON AIM AGAINST THEM. It helps a ton. And like someone else mentioned, use your jump button. It does wonders.

that's my main ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ problem! Not using a gameplay mechanic that is intended to help you, isn't a rebuttal for why that mechanic is garbage. The camera in soulsbornes have been pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful, the reason why I and people like me didn't raise a fuss is because the big bad bosses that were too big for the camera were carefully thought out and usually didn't cause a problem. I genuinely remember thinking the same thing of this as the nameless king in ds3, if the camera wasn't an active detriment and worked, the fights would be significantly more manageable.

[Zorlin]

Originally posted by Dargsy:

Originally posted by Zorlin3321:

1. what??? "just run after him" wtf kinda- no you can't be serious here, yes you run after him but he just continues to do that. it's not fun to run half way across the arena dodging the 3 or 4 attacks over and over again
2. I'm so at a loss for- dude, I mean when he flies up into the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stratosphere, even while locked on you can't see him or tell what he's going to do next!
3. I don't forget the jump button- it's just not practical to jump. Rolling is faster from a technical standpoint. Also again- no hit runs are possible because no hit runners are A) better than me by a large margin B) they're not wearing any form of armor whatsoever.
4. this is just straight up dickrider behavior, dude. The elden beast pulls out mechanics that aren't used in any portion of the game, the least they could do is give us some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ prewarning because no enemy whatsoever has ever healed from holy damage. it's out of the blue and stupid. it's just completely unjustifiable from a gameplay perspective to throw out random bits of mechanics that have no been introduced or even hinted at, being a thing.

"The fight is bad because I don't want to adapt."

Alright. Case closed.

lmao tear that strawman down man, just destroy it, rip it apart like it killed your wife and children

[ЯeÐ ĄnimaŁ ШaЯ]

I think Melania is up there as well, ALL endgame bosses are worse than in DS3. ALL OF THEM. And NO, it's not because I suck and can't beat them. It's because they have bad designs, and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ attacks feels totally unfair and unfun to learn.

I recently played DS3 again without touching any DLCs. And it was super easy for me, not bragging but I just normally leveled, tried a STR build for once, even tho I always liked fast weapons. I ended up using the Greataxe at the end, it just melts bosses and their openings are so big that the weapon is just fast enough to always get one hit in. I used a greatsword b4 and on Princes I could not beat them after a few tries because I traded with every single hit. I basically know if I swing its so slow that I get hit. As soon as I switched to Greataxe I did them 1st try with it. Most of the Bosses I did on the first try. Cinder just took me 2 because I got pretty unlucky. I mean I have lots of EXP with DS3 and easier does not mean better to me if it sounds like that BUT. The bosses not magic AOE spam you all the time, they actually let you heal, they seem "hard but fair" unlike ER where the bosses were just boring because they were the 13th version of a boss that pattern I had down by that point, and I was over leveled and later the bosses all were just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Radahn is ♥♥♥♥ because he hits too hard for the level most people go there, his floating is EXTREMELY confusing and his suck in attack ... it's all designed around having NPS beat him, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fight. I just did him again under leveled, but I do this every time no matter how leveled I am. I just run around with the horse and resummon the NPCs like 20 times until they get him down, I may try every once in a while to get a hit in, but I have no interest to learn to beat him solo or like staying close and learn to dodge these insane swings.

And all these tryhards whining about "catering to noobs" because supposedly he got nerved. What actually did get nerved? His damage? Or just the bow damage at the beginning? Anyway it was he RIGHT decision to do so but they will never fix this crap boss design. It's not a "gimmick" boss like Yhorm either. Running away and summoing stupid NPCs, would never have thought they would make such a crappy boss with these years of exp.

[BaLuX]

Originally posted by Zorlin3321:

Originally posted by BaLuX:

What makes me wonder is how the F you beat Malenia on the 3rd try and you are struggling with the Elden Beast.

But tbf Malenia can be cheesed, Elden Beast cannot.

Malenia doesn't run away, and malienia doesn't have a torrent-sized arena. that's why, plus there's not a boss you have to before even attempting malenia's fight.
this boss fight was so unthought out it's unbelievable.
And the fact that people are just saying "git gud" when I'm literally at the end of the game is asinine, will people literally suck the ♥♥♥ out of Fromsoft's ♥♥♥♥ no matter what they do? I played DS1-3 and Sekiro, I know what difficulty is and is not. stop patronizing me and trying to be elitist, this fight is ass and you know it is. there's a thousand ways this boss would be less frustrating to deal with, letting us use torrent, putting a merchant note or something about the holy damage thing, giving us a maliketh-style fight where the elden beast bursts outside radagon at half health, anything would be better than guessing if it's going to elden stars or ring me while it's up in the air. anything would be better than having to slog through radagon just to make another attempt. anything would be then running for a solid 15 seconds across the arena just to get a slap or two in for it to vanish across the arena, cast elden stars, and you have to run across the arena after dodging it yet again.

I understand that it's frustrating that he runs around all the time. You need to play with a cool head and everything will go fine. Do you want to summon me to help you with the final boss?

[Big Dog]

Originally posted by Mikebeez:

Originally posted by Zorlin3321:

man you guys honestly, earnestly, don't think the Elden Beast is broken?? are we playing two separate games? I feel like some level of intellectual dishonesty is at play here, this is a classic cameraboss mixed with ♥♥♥♥♥♥, cheesy moves and a garbage arena to boot. Everything about this boss screams no effort.

Funny thing is, I've killed these bosses 3 times and 2 out of the 3 attempts I didnt even get hit.....and I'm a 41 year old fart. Suggestion on big bosses, DO NOT USE THE LOCK ON AIM AGAINST THEM. It helps a ton. And like someone else mentioned, use your jump button. It does wonders.

Underrated advice here. Against big bosses you should only lock on when you want to block with your shield.

[Aria Athena]

Well, it's a very easy boss. It's also by far the worst boss I've ever played, at least in a fromsoft game. I hate that slithering jellybean with all my heart. Rngesus kept laughing at me while I was running after it for 15 minutes straight. Left a sour taste in my mouth.

[† Dead Anarchist †]

lol, this slow big and very EZ boss, but i dont try to melee it so maybe someone have some problems)

[TommyEV]

Radagon takes 2 tries to get the hang of and EB is a joke

[Zorlin]

Originally posted by ЯeÐ ĄnimaŁ ШaЯ:

I think Melania is up there as well, ALL endgame bosses are worse than in DS3. ALL OF THEM. And NO, it's not because I suck and can't beat them. It's because they have bad designs, and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ attacks feels totally unfair and unfun to learn.

I recently played DS3 again without touching any DLCs. And it was super easy for me, not bragging but I just normally leveled, tried a STR build for once, even tho I always liked fast weapons. I ended up using the Greataxe at the end, it just melts bosses and their openings are so big that the weapon is just fast enough to always get one hit in. I used a greatsword b4 and on Princes I could not beat them after a few tries because I traded with every single hit. I basically know if I swing its so slow that I get hit. As soon as I switched to Greataxe I did them 1st try with it. Most of the Bosses I did on the first try. Cinder just took me 2 because I got pretty unlucky. I mean I have lots of EXP with DS3 and easier does not mean better to me if it sounds like that BUT. The bosses not magic AOE spam you all the time, they actually let you heal, they seem "hard but fair" unlike ER where the bosses were just boring because they were the 13th version of a boss that pattern I had down by that point, and I was over leveled and later the bosses all were just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Radahn is ♥♥♥♥ because he hits too hard for the level most people go there, his floating is EXTREMELY confusing and his suck in attack ... it's all designed around having NPS beat him, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fight. I just did him again under leveled, but I do this every time no matter how leveled I am. I just run around with the horse and resummon the NPCs like 20 times until they get him down, I may try every once in a while to get a hit in, but I have no interest to learn to beat him solo or like staying close and learn to dodge these insane swings.

And all these tryhards whining about "catering to noobs" because supposedly he got nerved. What actually did get nerved? His damage? Or just the bow damage at the beginning? Anyway it was he RIGHT decision to do so but they will never fix this crap boss design. It's not a "gimmick" boss like Yhorm either. Running away and summoing stupid NPCs, would never have thought they would make such a crappy boss with these years of exp.

my main problem with melania was the stupid weeb anime thousand-cuts-in-a-second move, that ♥♥♥♥ seemed stupid. But what was more stupid, that, or the entire ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ haligtree? I hated that section to my core. It was the most poorly thought out area I've ever seen in any Soulsborne game, and that and the Elden Beast is the main reason why I will not NG, and possibly why I won't finish the game at all. I'm sick of fighting the same enemies again and again and again...It's just not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fun, dude.