ELDEN RING

ELDEN RING

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Zohan2000 2 ABR 2022 a las 6:26 a. m.
what performance tweaks worked for you?
getting to the point that the game stutters every few minutes and its extremely annoying when fighting, playing at max settings with 3900x, 16GB, 3090, at 1080p, most of the time the game sits on 60fps but does dip down a few times

EDIT: turning off EAC didnt do anything for me sadly, neither has changing it from full screen to borderless windowed, i could try a clean install of windows with only installing steam and elden ring (and necessary drivers) on a separate spare sata SSD, i can see how that could help by eliminating any software conflicts but is a bit extreme to jump to just for one game, am tempted to reinstall process lasso and see if that would help in anyway

EDIT 2: process lasso didnt really do anything either, guess im just gonna have to wait till the devs fix whatever the issue is which could take who knows how long
Última edición por Zohan2000; 3 ABR 2022 a las 7:03 a. m.
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chosenxeno 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:27 a. m. 
Owning a Grown Up Gamer PC.
Jork 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:27 a. m. 
i still don't understand why disabling EAC fixes my performance problems if it's a DX12 issue?

each game patch made the game's performance a hell of a lot worse. i didn't have much stuttering at all when the game had just come out. it got exponentially worse with every single patch they released.

i screwed with nvidia control panel for an entire hour, nothing made a difference. playing offline made no difference. borderless/fullscreen/all graphical options ingame, fiddling with them made no difference.

disabled EAC, game runs great.
Última edición por Jork; 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:30 a. m.
Monk 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:32 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Emusrath:
Publicado originalmente por Scoobydoo wr r u:

This is the absolute last thing anyone should ever do to solve performance problems. It is borderline retarded to just straight up shoot it out as first line advice.
Another person also suggested disabling the firewall LOL
Rest of my message is aimed at OP

Gosh OP please for your own damn sake DO NOT and I repeat DO NOT bother with reinstalling windows. It's a overly time consuming bandaid fix that is not at all the solution.

People that suggest to reinstall windows are technology inept people that should not be listened to. Also do not disable your firewall- that's outright moronic.

Your firewall is what determines what inbound and outbound traffic is allowed. Disabling it would let *anything* thru. That's how you get hacked.

A fresh windiws install fromm a formatted C drive should take no more than 20 to 30 minutes.

If you are running a firewall (I've only ever used Windows defender personally) ensure you make exceptions for the game, if you do not go download g random crap your chances of being hacked are like winning the lottery.

By doing a clean fresh install it will likely eliminate whatever conflict is causing the stuttering.

My own copy of Windows hot corrupted and had to do a fresh install a couple days, ago.

Only time it could be more awkward us if you run everything off of 1 storage device with no partitions, but in todays age, that is frankly, stupid with how cheap small ssd's are to run as a boot drive and is frankly asking for stuff to get messed up.
Monk 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:36 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Scoobydoo wr r u:
Publicado originalmente por Monk:

If that was all it was it would be affecting everyone, which, it is not, also, thst was I regards to Linux running on the new handheld, so likely a different issue to those using Windows.

I've tried it on Windows 10 / 11 with a 1080ti, 4 3090's, 2 different 9900k's (on z390 maximus xi code and extreme) a 7900X all using 4 different sets of ram and have yet to get the issues some have (been hoping to so I could try and find or test various fixes) all running off Samsung 850 evos or 970 nvme's.

I should have my old 3570k with a gtx 670 back on Sunday, so I guess I'll see if I can get it running on that next as admittedly the systems I have right now are not exactly average.

I think one big problem is people mistake fps drops for stuttering, like the OP here is likely suffering fps drops when new areas need to load and not stuttering which, will usually be near constant every few seconds.

Funny how so many other games running all these varieties of configurations don't have all these performance issues unique to Elden Ring.

Why would they, it's a conflict, does not mean it affects everything, if your theory was correct the overwhelming majority would have the issue instead of a few hundred to a few thousand, there would be millions.
nfinite.recursion 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:45 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Monk:
Publicado originalmente por nfinite.recursion:

Uh, no. It's literally been documented by Valve's Proton team what the problems with the game are.

The big stutters are due to DX12 shader compilation. Why doesn't Elden Ring perform shader precompilation on first run, a patch, or new driver? Because their programmers are absolute clowns. Microsoft's own recommendations are to do this.

The microstutters are due to asset loading. Rather than loading assets from a list, Elden Ring loads one-by-one, back-to-back using a single thread rather than spawning multiple threads across the CPU. Again, another thing that Microsoft recommends doing when programming a game to use DX12.

If that was all it was it would be affecting everyone, which, it is not, also, thst was I regards to Linux running on the new handheld, so likely a different issue to those using Windows.

I've tried it on Windows 10 / 11 with a 1080ti, 4 3090's, 2 different 9900k's (on z390 maximus xi code and extreme) a 7900X all using 4 different sets of ram and have yet to get the issues some have (been hoping to so I could try and find or test various fixes) all running off Samsung 850 evos or 970 nvme's.

I should have my old 3570k with a gtx 670 back on Sunday, so I guess I'll see if I can get it running on that next as admittedly the systems I have right now are not exactly average.

I think one big problem is people mistake fps drops for stuttering, like the OP here is likely suffering fps drops when new areas need to load and not stuttering which, will usually be near constant every few seconds.

It DOES affect everyone. However, if the micostuttering only causes someone to drop from 60fps to 58fps, is it worth complaining about? Probably not. People will still say, "It runs perfect for me" even if their frame pacing graph is a slightly wobbly line rather than a perfectly straight one. With the right combination of hardware the game runs great. This doesn't excuse the trash optimization though.

When (some) people with 1060s can play without the stutters and (some) people with 3090s play with stutter, there is very obviously an optimization problem with the game. Performance should scale heavily in favor of the 3090 if that weren't the case.
Dark Homer 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:47 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Jork:
disabling EAC solved literally every single performance issue i had ?
what's EAC?
Jork 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:47 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por robeless skelesis:
Publicado originalmente por Jork:
disabling EAC solved literally every single performance issue i had ?
what's EAC?
easy anti-cheat

the useless program glued to the game that doesn't even stop cheaters in pvp lol
Última edición por Jork; 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:48 a. m.
Stechhelm 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:48 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Blahness:
I have tried every single fix that people have come up with including turning off EAC. Literally nothing has worked and the recent patches have greatly decreased game performance. I made a new character to compare starting now compared to when the game first came out. I was getting max fps before until I reach the tree sentinel, but now the game is even stuttering and lagging at the very start and literally everywhere else.

You are probably didnt pirate it.
Radipz 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:51 a. m. 
I am curious why so many people complaining about stutter.
Somehow I am using 3060 (Laptop), 16 GB RAM, Ryzen 7 5800H its just fine with Max settings with almost 60 fps average in 1080p
Última edición por Radipz; 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:52 a. m.
Jork 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:52 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Radipz:
I am curious why so many people complaining about stutter.
Somehow I am using 3060 (Laptop), 16 GB RAM, Ryzen 7 5800H its just fine with Max settings with almost 60 fps average
it's almost like when people have an issue you don't, it doesn't magically make their issue go away

wow what a novel concept, such a curiosity, much wonder in this world :steamhappy:
Última edición por Jork; 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:52 a. m.
Radipz 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:53 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Jork:
Publicado originalmente por Radipz:
I am curious why so many people complaining about stutter.
Somehow I am using 3060 (Laptop), 16 GB RAM, Ryzen 7 5800H its just fine with Max settings with almost 60 fps average
it's almost like when people have an issue you don't, it doesn't magically make their issue go away

wow what a novel concept, such a curiosity, much wonder in this world :steamhappy:
No, I am genuinely curious.
I am thinking is it related to specific hardware or software... I even searched about GPU architecture to find maybe there is something related to asset pre-render or something
Maybe I am just lucky, I dont know
Última edición por Radipz; 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:54 a. m.
Monk 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:54 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por nfinite.recursion:
Publicado originalmente por Monk:

If that was all it was it would be affecting everyone, which, it is not, also, thst was I regards to Linux running on the new handheld, so likely a different issue to those using Windows.

I've tried it on Windows 10 / 11 with a 1080ti, 4 3090's, 2 different 9900k's (on z390 maximus xi code and extreme) a 7900X all using 4 different sets of ram and have yet to get the issues some have (been hoping to so I could try and find or test various fixes) all running off Samsung 850 evos or 970 nvme's.

I should have my old 3570k with a gtx 670 back on Sunday, so I guess I'll see if I can get it running on that next as admittedly the systems I have right now are not exactly average.

I think one big problem is people mistake fps drops for stuttering, like the OP here is likely suffering fps drops when new areas need to load and not stuttering which, will usually be near constant every few seconds.

It DOES affect everyone. However, if the micostuttering only causes someone to drop from 60fps to 58fps, is it worth complaining about? Probably not. People will still say, "It runs perfect for me" even if their frame pacing graph is a slightly wobbly line rather than a perfectly straight one. With the right combination of hardware the game runs great. This doesn't excuse the trash optimization though.

When (some) people with 1060s can play without the stutters and (some) people with 3090s play with stutter, there is very obviously an optimization problem with the game. Performance should scale heavily in favor of the 3090 if that weren't the case.

That's an fps drop not a stutter, I've had none of this and I've had frame time graph open for alot of the time showing me it's not happening and I am dome how not aware of it.

Emusrath, that's why you should only install the OS on the C drive and back stuff up first.

I don't fully listen to this advice and install all game launchers (steam ubisoft etc.) on my C drive along with monitoring software / overclocking tools as I feel it never hurts to spend 5 mins reinstalling them if I've done a clean install.

While you may claim it a bandaid fix, corruptions and conflicts can take forever to find and fix if you know what you are doing.

I was lazy and decided to try and fix my recent issues for a month before deciding to say sod it and just format the damn c drive (an extra issye on top of faulty ram and mobo bios issues I'd been suffering and likely atleast partly to blame).
Monk 2 ABR 2022 a las 7:58 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Radipz:
Publicado originalmente por Jork:
it's almost like when people have an issue you don't, it doesn't magically make their issue go away

wow what a novel concept, such a curiosity, much wonder in this world :steamhappy:
No, I am genuinely curious.
I am thinking is it related to specific hardware or software... I even searched about GPU architecture to find maybe there is something related to asset pre-render or something
Maybe I am just lucky, I dont know

You are in the majority without issues, most likely the problems are a local conflict, but, most refuse to accept anything is wrong with their system (note most, not all issues), add to that people confusing fps drops with stuttering and half the people do not even have the same problem.
Monk 2 ABR 2022 a las 8:00 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Scoobydoo wr r u:
Publicado originalmente por Monk:

A fresh windiws install fromm a formatted C drive should take no more than 20 to 30 minutes.

If you are running a firewall (I've only ever used Windows defender personally) ensure you make exceptions for the game, if you do not go download g random crap your chances of being hacked are like winning the lottery.

By doing a clean fresh install it will likely eliminate whatever conflict is causing the stuttering.

My own copy of Windows hot corrupted and had to do a fresh install a couple days, ago.

Only time it could be more awkward us if you run everything off of 1 storage device with no partitions, but in todays age, that is frankly, stupid with how cheap small ssd's are to run as a boot drive and is frankly asking for stuff to get messed up.

More single celled brainiac advice. 30 minutes? Do you understand the average person in the least? You might as well tell them to buy a new computer. It's just amoeba level problem solving.


Yes 30 minutes, get bootabke windows install onto a USB stick (a million guides as to how to fo this) follow basic instructions and you are done, reinstall any software you run on C drive (which should not be much), if you think it's a long or complex job, you should not be giving advice.
Monk 2 ABR 2022 a las 8:02 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Scoobydoo wr r u:
Monk. Retire from whatever you do & go flip burgers.

You have yet to put forward anything to back up your claims or insults.

I get it, your pc is bad (as in running bad not necessarily a bad spec) and the game doesn't work for you, it must be the sane for everyone else, it cannot possibly be a local issue!

You cannot think that the majority suffer these issues.
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