Running a pure FTH build and looking for the best general use weapon

[Melchiah]

I thought it would be as easy as just slapping Sacred on whatever weapon I wanted to use, but turns out holy damage sucks.

Is there anything with a good FTH scaling that I can rely on for general use, or am I doomed to just use Flame Art and switch to Sacred if they are resistant to fire?.

[A-Silly-Bun-Bun]

Melchiah님이 먼저 게시:

Ectier님이 먼저 게시:

You can make holy damage work but a lot of the good weapons are late game. Also the final boss resists holy like no ones bussiness. Also godslayer greatsword is a beast but it weighs a lot

Funny you mention Godslayer, I've been using godslayer incantations (and seal) the most over my playthrough cause I love how it burns their HP (literally), I might go for that one.

But godslayer or any fire weapon will work wonders if you just want to pump faith

[JAYM-Z]

Baron01님이 먼저 게시:

JAYM-Z님이 먼저 게시:

...The skeleton thing is weird, I think certain attacks do keep them dead (for example the Coded Sword's weapon art).

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Weapons that can apply Holy essence to them will permanently kill undead enemies. This includes weapons such as Treespear or Code Sword. It is the active skill and its buff, not the passive holy damage a weapon deals.

That's useful info! I didn't realize there was actually a buff applied, I'll look out for that next time I'm playing

[CernyGaming]

Coded Sword
Winged Scythe
Blasphemous Blade

All absolutely amazing.

[Baron01]

Ectier님이 먼저 게시:

But godslayer or any fire weapon will work wonders if you just want to pump faith

It is not really the fire damage element but the weapon scaling that is affected by Faith. If your weapon does not scale with Faith even if it does fire damage, you will not do more damage by having more Faith.

[Melchiah]

Baron01님이 먼저 게시:

Ectier님이 먼저 게시:

But godslayer or any fire weapon will work wonders if you just want to pump faith

It is not really the fire damage element but the weapon scaling that is affected by Faith. If your weapon does not scale with Faith even if it does fire damage, you will not do more damage by having more Faith.

FTH scaling only affects it's fire damage doesn't it?. If it also increases physical then I'll stick to the godskin peeler yet again (it was my main on my first run; full DEX if you're wondering).

CernyGaming님이 먼저 게시:

Coded Sword
Winged Scythe
Blasphemous Blade

All absolutely amazing.

Coded sword is pure Holy, exactly what I'm trying to avoid (specially against bosses).

[JAYM-Z]

Melchiah님이 먼저 게시:

Baron01님이 먼저 게시:

It is not really the fire damage element but the weapon scaling that is affected by Faith. If your weapon does not scale with Faith even if it does fire damage, you will not do more damage by having more Faith.

FTH scaling only affects it's fire damage doesn't it?. If it also increases physical then I'll stick to the godskin peeler yet again (it was my main on my first run; full DEX if you're wondering).

CernyGaming님이 먼저 게시:

Coded Sword
Winged Scythe
Blasphemous Blade

All absolutely amazing.

Coded sword is pure Holy, exactly what I'm trying to avoid (specially against bosses).

then just take any normal weapon and put a holy ash of war on it if you refuse to use any of the good holy weapons

[Melchiah]

JAYM-Z님이 먼저 게시:

then just take any normal weapon and put a holy ash of war on it if you refuse to use any of the good holy weapons

I'm trying to avoid having holy as my main damage source, so no thanks.

[Get Donked On]

i mean a bit of topic but make sure to pick up pest threads for bosses with high lighnting and holy resistance its also a good general workhose incant

[Melchiah]

Get Donked On님이 먼저 게시:

i mean a bit of topic but make sure to pick up pest threads for bosses with high lighnting and holy resistance its also a good general workhose incant

That sounds very helpful, I had no idea this was a thing.

[itsYiyas]

Dual scythe done me most of the game. Wasn't until Malenia that it became a problem (too slow, not enough stagger) but with bloodhound's step and a good summon it can be okay. Mimic AI for dual scythe is just facetank, so it's pretty bad.

The range of dual scythe is very strong and versatile, then there's the dodge attack which is great, crouch attack, jump attack, running attack, AoE of the main combo. They give bleed so even if holy resist it's not the end of the world.

Can use radagon's scarseal / soreseal to equip without messing with your stats early on assuming you started as confessor.

[Get Donked On]

Melchiah님이 먼저 게시:

JAYM-Z님이 먼저 게시:

then just take any normal weapon and put a holy ash of war on it if you refuse to use any of the good holy weapons

I'm trying to avoid having holy as my main damage source, so no thanks.

not a bad idea most times but if you go hard into faith it might be worth it just for the faith based dmg scaling if nothing else otherwise id agree with you as im recently running greases on my strength build and havinh a greatsword with the heavy infusion that allows me to have massive dmg and coat my weapons in whaterver i need at that moment is really growing on me especially with how easy grease is to make

[Get Donked On]

Melchiah님이 먼저 게시:

Get Donked On님이 먼저 게시:

i mean a bit of topic but make sure to pick up pest threads for bosses with high lighnting and holy resistance its also a good general workhose incant

That sounds very helpful, I had no idea this was a thing.

its that thing the weird centepide things spam at you the insects that look like they wear hats with their glaives. gowry sells it to you after you help milicent out i wont tell more as you can spoil yourself with guides if thats what you want

[Melchiah]

Get Donked On님이 먼저 게시:

not a bad idea most times but if you go hard into faith it might be worth it just for the faith based dmg scaling if nothing else otherwise id agree with you as im recently running greases on my strength build and havinh a greatsword with the heavy infusion that allows me to have massive dmg and coat my weapons in whaterver i need at that moment is really growing on me especially with how easy grease is to make

I find funny how Flame Art has the same scaling as Sacred, but doing Fire instead of Holy; as I said before, so far my character is basically a Pyromancer with heals at this point.

itsYiyas님이 먼저 게시:

Dual scythe done me most of the game. Wasn't until Malenia that it became a problem (too slow, not enough stagger) but with bloodhound's step and a good summon it can be okay. Mimic AI for dual scythe is just facetank, so it's pretty bad.

The range of dual scythe is very strong and versatile, then there's the dodge attack which is great, crouch attack, jump attack, running attack, AoE of the main combo. They give bleed so even if holy resist it's not the end of the world.

Can use radagon's scarseal / soreseal to equip without messing with your stats early on assuming you started as confessor.

I still haven't tried the Winged Scythe since I lack the stats and haven't got those talismans, but it sounds like my best early choice so far.

[SmallGespenst]

Get Donked On님이 먼저 게시:

Melchiah님이 먼저 게시:

That sounds very helpful, I had no idea this was a thing.

its that thing the weird centepide things spam at you the insects that look like they wear hats with their glaives. gowry sells it to you after you help milicent out i wont tell more as you can spoil yourself with guides if thats what you want

Doesn't Pest threads have pathetic damage though? the projectiles are agonisingly slow too, I found it to be pretty sucky when I could be using Lightning Spear or Flame Sling, or Stone of Gurranq, basically any other ranged incant that isn't a dragon.

[SmallGespenst]

Melchiah님이 먼저 게시:

Get Donked On님이 먼저 게시:

not a bad idea most times but if you go hard into faith it might be worth it just for the faith based dmg scaling if nothing else otherwise id agree with you as im recently running greases on my strength build and havinh a greatsword with the heavy infusion that allows me to have massive dmg and coat my weapons in whaterver i need at that moment is really growing on me especially with how easy grease is to make

I find funny how Flame Art has the same scaling as Sacred, but doing Fire instead of Holy; as I said before, so far my character is basically a Pyromancer with heals at this point.

itsYiyas님이 먼저 게시:

Dual scythe done me most of the game. Wasn't until Malenia that it became a problem (too slow, not enough stagger) but with bloodhound's step and a good summon it can be okay. Mimic AI for dual scythe is just facetank, so it's pretty bad.

The range of dual scythe is very strong and versatile, then there's the dodge attack which is great, crouch attack, jump attack, running attack, AoE of the main combo. They give bleed so even if holy resist it's not the end of the world.

Can use radagon's scarseal / soreseal to equip without messing with your stats early on assuming you started as confessor.

I still haven't tried the Winged Scythe since I lack the stats and haven't got those talismans, but it sounds like my best early choice so far.

winged scythe is good, but do be aware that it's holy so your faith will be scaling that damage.