pvp in high level aka 650+

[Zetto]

bloodhounds step everywhere, literally, unfun asf lol. in general if you use that ♥♥♥♥ in pvp you're just a garbage meta cuck tbh, change my mind

[Zetto]

Originally posted by Zetto:

Originally posted by Monk:

Math kind of suggests you dudnt have time to complete the game abd explore 6 times plus grind out thst much xp with your examples tbh.

I am pretty sure you exploited / duped runes and definetly followed a bunch of guides.

You literally heard of pvp?

Plus from encounters of other players dropping rune consumeables :D but its nothing to worry about, you’re for sure right regarsing math obv dw, not adding different variables to the whole thing

[Monk]

Yes, but even with that the math doesn't really make sense, it's slower than farming when you add in load times, search times, winning the battle.

I mean even at base you can earn far more xp a minute farming than the numbers you put forward from pvp.

But, I only have the experience at a mere 254.

[Monk]

Originally posted by Zetto:

Originally posted by Zetto:

You literally heard of pvp?

Plus from encounters of other players dropping rune consumeables :D but its nothing to worry about, you’re for sure right regarsing math obv dw, not adding different variables to the whole thing

Your own numbers suggest you can get maybe 100k per pvp, say you get that once e ery 5 minutes, unlikely its that much every time though, that's way less than just farming even at the base xp.

Which, is why I asked you to explain it to me.

I mean it's taken nearly 200 hours to explore most of the game world, you have 170 hours completed it multiple times and grinded to 650 odd, something does not add up if no exploits were being used.

[Zetto]

Originally posted by Monk:

Yes, but even with that the math doesn't really make sense, it's slower than farming when you add in load times, search times, winning the battle.

I mean even at base you can earn far more xp a minute farming than the numbers you put forward from pvp.

But, I only have the experience at a mere 254.

Did you consider the fact of stockpiling runes already?

[Eternal President Uncle Slam]

Blood hounds step is absolute cancer in pvp. I get that if you are outnumbered sometimes you need to fall back and have done so myself. Thing is I am watching these spammers spam the skill non stop and then hiding when they get enough distance. That ain't pvp. Its not the end of the world if you die as an invader and its funner for both parties if you just fight. You don't need 1 mile of space between yourself and the host to heal up or think of a plan.

Got called in as a hunter and the invader was using blood hound step and the invisibility talisman. He would creep up and get in 1 attack before spamming step 15+ times and then hiding. Pretty sure he actually managed to run out of time and got kicked out. Wasted my time, the hosts time, the yellows time, and his own time because he was too scared of pvp. Why queue for an invasion if your not going to fight? Would be like if I got summoned as a hunter and just immediately jumped off a cliff or stood around watching the host die.

[Monk]

Originally posted by Zetto:

Originally posted by Monk:

Yes, but even with that the math doesn't really make sense, it's slower than farming when you add in load times, search times, winning the battle.

I mean even at base you can earn far more xp a minute farming than the numbers you put forward from pvp.

But, I only have the experience at a mere 254.

Did you consider the fact of stockpiling runes already?

Stock piling what runes, there's no where near enough that drop to get that level without duping them in that ammount if time while aparantly completing and seeing so much of the game world.

It already takes 550k runes to level up at 254, so by your approach if 100k per pvp win, that would be 15-25 minutes ish, but, you need millions per level.

It just does not add up with your explanation.

If you duped them, who cares? It's a mainly single player game after all, I just cannot get the math, you put forward to maje sense.

[Zetto]

Originally posted by Monk:

Originally posted by Zetto:

Did you consider the fact of stockpiling runes already?

Stock piling what runes, there's no where near enough that drop to get that level without duping them in that ammount if time while aparantly completing and seeing so much of the game world.

It already takes 550k runes to level up at 254, so by your approach if 100k per pvp win, that would be 15-25 minutes ish, but, you need millions per level.

It just does not add up with your explanation.

If you duped them, who cares? It's a mainly single player game after all, I just cannot get the math, you put forward to maje sense.

You think everyone spend their runes as soon as they can level up?

[Shiroe (cortana)]

Originally posted by Monk:

Originally posted by Zetto:

Did you consider the fact of stockpiling runes already?

Stock piling what runes, there's no where near enough that drop to get that level without duping them in that ammount if time while aparantly completing and seeing so much of the game world.

It already takes 550k runes to level up at 254, so by your approach if 100k per pvp win, that would be 15-25 minutes ish, but, you need millions per level.

It just does not add up with your explanation.

If you duped them, who cares? It's a mainly single player game after all, I just cannot get the math, you put forward to maje sense.

Well, it cost roughly 820k runes at lvl 303 and it increases by roughly 8k so far every level.
Im also at ng4, or just completed it.
Last boss gave me a little over 1m for killing it.
And the rune farming spot, in mohg's palace gives me around 80-120k per reset, with golden scarab enabled.

So yeah, if you want to max level.. either rush ng7 and farm it or start duping runes, but even duping runes has a limit..
Like for example, lord's rune which is supposedly the best runes only gives you 50k each, and you can only equip 99 or store 600.
So 99 is roughly 5m, or 600 is roughly 30m..

At lvl 300, a stack of 99 is only 3 ½ levels or so.
IF you want to max levels only using duping, oh boy then you gotta find someone who have the patience to supply you and also keep abusing savefile.

[Zetto]

Originally posted by Shiroe (Cortana):

Originally posted by Monk:

Stock piling what runes, there's no where near enough that drop to get that level without duping them in that ammount if time while aparantly completing and seeing so much of the game world.

It already takes 550k runes to level up at 254, so by your approach if 100k per pvp win, that would be 15-25 minutes ish, but, you need millions per level.

It just does not add up with your explanation.

If you duped them, who cares? It's a mainly single player game after all, I just cannot get the math, you put forward to maje sense.

Well, it cost roughly 820k runes at lvl 303 and it increases by roughly 8k so far every level.
Im also at ng4, or just completed it.
Last boss gave me a little over 1m for killing it.
And the rune farming spot, in mohg's palace gives me around 80-120k per reset, with golden scarab enabled.

So yeah, if you want to max level.. either rush ng7 and farm it or start duping runes, but even duping runes has a limit..
Like for example, lord's rune which is supposedly the best runes only gives you 50k each, and you can only equip 99 or store 600.
So 99 is roughly 5m, or 600 is roughly 30m..

At lvl 300, a stack of 99 is only 3 ½ levels or so.
IF you want to max levels only using duping, oh boy then you gotta find someone who have the patience to supply you and also keep abusing savefile.

It doesnt cost 800k what the ♥♥♥♥ sre you on about

[Shiroe (cortana)]

Originally posted by Zetto:

Originally posted by Shiroe (Cortana):

Well, it cost roughly 820k runes at lvl 303 and it increases by roughly 8k so far every level.
Im also at ng4, or just completed it.
Last boss gave me a little over 1m for killing it.
And the rune farming spot, in mohg's palace gives me around 80-120k per reset, with golden scarab enabled.

So yeah, if you want to max level.. either rush ng7 and farm it or start duping runes, but even duping runes has a limit..
Like for example, lord's rune which is supposedly the best runes only gives you 50k each, and you can only equip 99 or store 600.
So 99 is roughly 5m, or 600 is roughly 30m..

At lvl 300, a stack of 99 is only 3 ½ levels or so.
IF you want to max levels only using duping, oh boy then you gotta find someone who have the patience to supply you and also keep abusing savefile.

It doesnt cost 800k what the ♥♥♥♥ sre you on about

0k, my fault, it cost 890k , at lvl 305 and not 800k...

https://imgur.com/a/vFG3HzW

[Sonnenbank]

well from level 100 to 650 you need

1 202 908 049

1 billion 202.9 million runes....

lets say you make 2 million an hour (33k a minute !) which is really a lot ;)
thats 600h of grind


how you get to 650 legit within 170h ?
kinda sus

127k runes every minute for 170h straight ?

[Red]

Originally posted by Sonnenbank:

well from level 100 to 650 you need

1 202 908 049

1 billion 202.9 million runes....

lets say you make 2 million an hour (33k a minute !) which is really a lot ;)
thats 600h of grind

On NG+ you can do 2million every 5minutes. it will take around 50hours for no lifers. Which OP probably is. Numbers may actually be higher, meaning less hours.

Originally posted by Monk:

Originally posted by Zetto:

Plus from encounters of other players dropping rune consumeables :D but its nothing to worry about, you’re for sure right regarsing math obv dw, not adding different variables to the whole thing

Your own numbers suggest you can get maybe 100k per pvp, say you get that once e ery 5 minutes, unlikely its that much every time though, that's way less than just farming even at the base xp.

Which, is why I asked you to explain it to me.

I mean it's taken nearly 200 hours to explore most of the game world, you have 170 hours completed it multiple times and grinded to 650 odd, something does not add up if no exploits were being used.

What are you basing that 200 hours on anyways? Playtime varies from person to person.

1. Not everyone scours the whole map multiple times on multiple playthroughs.
2. If were strictly speaking about NG, It shouldnt take that much, but then again, it varies on their goals, skill level, reading comprehension, etc.

I myself clocked at ~70hrs when I finished NG, with all of the major bosses done. Took me nowhere near that 200hour mark.

Anyways, NG+ is almost double the rune drop. At that point you can easily farm the game hard, netting around 90k-100k within 10 seconds. It takes atleast an hour to get there from the start of NG+ (less if you can do 3 invasions quickly. I got stuck trying to actually invade so it took me a while)

idk why people are jumping into conclusions that people near max level are cheating (not to say OP didnt, but its doable)

[Shiroe (cortana)]

Originally posted by Sonnenbank:

well from level 100 to 650 you need

1 202 908 049

1 billion 202.9 million runes....

lets say you make 2 million an hour (33k a minute !) which is really a lot ;)
thats 600h of grind


how you get to 650 legit within 170h ?
kinda sus

127k runes every minute for 170h straight ?

well you can in mogh's palace and using last boss weapon, especially on higher ng+.
I get something around 250k-300k or so every min.

WIth weapon, takes roughly 5 sec to clear that area, and i get around 80-130k each time.
So, use weapon art, and kill the enemies (roughly 5-10 sec) then another 5 sec to run to grace to reset.
Thats on average 15-20 sec, so it means i can get around 3 reset every min.
And bcoz i get around 100k every 20 sec, thats 300k every min and on average 18m per hour

[Monk]

Originally posted by Zetto:

Originally posted by Monk:

Stock piling what runes, there's no where near enough that drop to get that level without duping them in that ammount if time while aparantly completing and seeing so much of the game world.

It already takes 550k runes to level up at 254, so by your approach if 100k per pvp win, that would be 15-25 minutes ish, but, you need millions per level.

It just does not add up with your explanation.

If you duped them, who cares? It's a mainly single player game after all, I just cannot get the math, you put forward to maje sense.

You think everyone spend their runes as soon as they can level up?

Doesn't matter if you save them, the cost goes up every level regardless, honestly, your answers suggested you cheated more and more.

[♔V3RD1CT]

Think when you see so much of it that even the meta heads feel like venting a forum topic on it that might be the communities light bulb moment to realize what is, or is not acceptable levels of cheese.

From what I hear this one is a bad egg. Make it go away.