Do ppl really not know what a hard cap is?

[Drake Ravenwolf]

I ran into this misconception on Elden Ring's Reddit; there they think 80 is a "hard cap" ...
Hard caps are points past which you gain ZERO benefit putting in more points or else are simply unable to put in any more points aka 99 is the hard cap for stats in this game.
Soft caps are all the points where putting in more points gives less benefit, but still some benefit aka the whole point of my guide (shameless self plug)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2765060616

I know ER players like to call eg Horses and Donkeys => "dogs" ... just don't call a soft cap a "hard cap" m'kay?

[xX处女B0NG0 B8Y娘炮Xx]

Ok but 80 is hard cap have a good day

[trash]

its called a hardcap because it becomes hard to justify putting any more points into it

[Drake Ravenwolf]

Damn you all and the "dogs" you rode in on >.>

[xX处女B0NG0 B8Y娘炮Xx]

Originally posted by Drake Ravenwolf:

Damn you all and the "dogs" you rode in on >.>

Try finger

[Drake Ravenwolf]

Something incredible ahead?

[lpnlizard27]

Originally posted by trash:

its called a hardcap because it becomes hard to justify putting any more points into it

This is so stupid but i love it.

[zero]

a hard cap is when the gains drop signifigantly that there is no real reason to raise it above that point, the hard cap=/=the max in the stat catagory.

you'd just call it "the cap" if it was the max in a stat, there'd be no need for the prefix "hard" otherwise.

the soft cap in turn is where their is a major dimishing return (IE 40 for vit) but it still gives somewhat worthwhile rewards beyond that point.

https://preview.redd.it/q1oa9febodl81.jpg?width=2927&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9b8c80212e126b1a5a73f4a5ef9bbaa54b13dc2

if we wish to look at the charts for vit, specifically the "absolute increase(they all show the same info in different ways, but this one is easy to understand)" one, we can see the soft cap happens at 40, and then the hard cap happens at 60

[Werewolf Moms]

"hard cap" mf just call it a helmet

[Nauct]

Back in the day hard cap was the max you could get something to. Not when it suffers diminishing returns

[Drake Ravenwolf]

Originally posted by zero:

a hard cap is when the gains drop signifigantly that there is no real reason to raise it above that point, the hard cap=/=the max in the stat catagory.

the soft cap in turn is where their is a major dimishing return (IE 40 for vit) but it still gives somewhat worthwhile rewards beyond that point.

https://preview.redd.it/q1oa9febodl81.jpg?width=2927&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9b8c80212e126b1a5a73f4a5ef9bbaa54b13dc2

if we wish to look at the charts for vit, specifically the "absolute increase(they all show the same info in different ways, but this one is easy to understand)" one, we can see the soft cap happens at 40, and then the hard cap happens at 60

And there is the misconception I'm referring to.
60 would only be a hard cap there if 61 gave 0 hp, 62 gave 0 hp, and so on but intead it gives 6 hp - a low amount but still a benefit which makes it a soft cap

[finnegan]

Your guide shows 40 vigor for many builds, all of which over meta level. But 40 vigor is insufficient, you really need 60 or very close to that.

[Nauct]

Originally posted by Drake Ravenwolf:

Originally posted by zero:

a hard cap is when the gains drop signifigantly that there is no real reason to raise it above that point, the hard cap=/=the max in the stat catagory.

the soft cap in turn is where their is a major dimishing return (IE 40 for vit) but it still gives somewhat worthwhile rewards beyond that point.

https://preview.redd.it/q1oa9febodl81.jpg?width=2927&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9b8c80212e126b1a5a73f4a5ef9bbaa54b13dc2

if we wish to look at the charts for vit, specifically the "absolute increase(they all show the same info in different ways, but this one is easy to understand)" one, we can see the soft cap happens at 40, and then the hard cap happens at 60

And there is the misconception I'm referring to.
60 would only be a hard cap there if 61 gave 0 hp, 62 gave 0 hp, and so on but intead it gives 6 hp - a low amount but still a benefit which makes it a soft cap

I agree

[zero]

Originally posted by Drake Ravenwolf:

Originally posted by zero:

a hard cap is when the gains drop signifigantly that there is no real reason to raise it above that point, the hard cap=/=the max in the stat catagory.

the soft cap in turn is where their is a major dimishing return (IE 40 for vit) but it still gives somewhat worthwhile rewards beyond that point.

https://preview.redd.it/q1oa9febodl81.jpg?width=2927&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9b8c80212e126b1a5a73f4a5ef9bbaa54b13dc2

if we wish to look at the charts for vit, specifically the "absolute increase(they all show the same info in different ways, but this one is easy to understand)" one, we can see the soft cap happens at 40, and then the hard cap happens at 60

And there is the misconception I'm referring to.
60 would only be a hard cap there if 61 gave 0 hp, 62 gave 0 hp, and so on but intead it gives 6 hp - a low amount but still a benefit which makes it a soft cap

the misconception is actually your misunderstanding on what a hard cap is, the hard cap is when it doesn't give any meaningful rewards and no longer has any more dimishes, hence it being the "hard cap"

there would be no need for the term "hard cap" if it was just the stat cap, you'd just call it "the cap" as i said.

soft is when there is a major dimishing return, the hard cap is for the final one beyond that in which point putting points into the stat is no longer meaningful, because it has been reduced too much for the stat to be worthwhile as opposed to putting it elsewhere.

[Nauct]

Originally posted by zero:

soft is when there is a major dimishing return, the hard cap is for the final one beyond that in which point putting points into the stat is no longer meaningful.

That would just be the second soft cap

[0wnz0r]

genius, 80 is the hard cap.

its OBVIOUS that u cant level past 99, but theres multiple soft caps in these games, so wen we refer to the hardest soft cap, we say hard cap. because every human adult wit a functional brain realizes that a hard cap is literally a hard cap n u cant invest past that.

we rly gotta think up a new term for "common sense" cuz it sure as ♥♥♥♥ hasnt been common for decades