weapon stats BROKEN !!!!

[rpc]

SO IM LEVEL 40 30 str 20 dex
i compare the golden alabard and the bloodhound fang both +4
the staS with shield are 243+114 for fang and 231+85 for golden halabaRD
but with any type of strikes i made 20%more damage with the halabard
ie with 2 h i do 361 vs 302 and on heavy 486vs 401 !!!
how its possible ? the speed and fatigue look almost similar
any suggestion ?

[Ashtrails]

The Halberd deals a portion of its damage as holy damage and whatever you hit is probably not very resistant to that.

[Lucas]

Size matters...

[River]

Pretty sure the Halberd scales better with STR and the Fang scales better with Dex. So that's a factor. As well as the enemy you're fighting may have resistances that lower one damage type, but not another.

Think of the Crystalian bosses. They eat up slashes from swords all day, but if you hit them with Strike damage from a Mace, they crumble into dust with ease.

[Celltastic]

the enemies might have more defense against piercing attacks since thats the kind of damage the golden halberd does.

[Zengar]

Bloodhound does slashing damage while the halberd does standard/piercing and enemies have different resistances. I kept telling people that it's better to use the correct weapon even if unupgraded than just going through the game using always the same.
Some times all you need to do to make an encounter easier is change the damage type.

[Celltastic]

wait i didnt realize the golden halberd does split damage
so the halberd also does holy damage and physical damage meaning it has "split damage"
this means it will do less damage to enemies than purely physical based weapons because enemies have defense against both physical and holy

[Coin]

My suggestion is: learn how to type properly.

Originally posted by Zengar:

Bloodhound does slashing damage while the halberd does standard/piercing and enemies have different resistances. I kept telling people that it's better to use the correct weapon even if unupgraded than just going through the game using always the same.
Some times all you need to do to make an encounter easier is change the damage type.

Imagine fighting crystal dudes with a sword. Striking weapons are really good against some enemies, gargoyles too.

[Niuq]

Are the damage types on the weapons split?
Physical + Holy vs only Physical?
If the weapons you are comparing do not have matching damage types then the comparison will never be even.

Basic example
You have one weapon that does 200 physical damage and one weapon the does 100 phys and 100 holy

The enemy you are attacking has 20 damage negation vs everything
Physical weapon does 200 -20 = 180 damage
Phy / Holy does 100- 20 100 -20 = 160 damage

So in this case split damage types are weaker by fair amount.

It is also possible that enemy you are testing against simply has more damage negation vs Slash??? ( bloodhound blade) than peirce??? ( Halberd)

[pRaX]

Golden Halberd does split damage...

[rpc]

i tested with many type of enemies armored or not it doesnt change a lot the result
and no the alabard doesnt have any holy damage it can improve damage and defence with the ash

[Codester]

Sounds like you simply don't understand how scaling works with ashes changes.
Also, you're wrong. That weapon does do holy damage. And if you're changing the scaling so that it doesn't, you will deal less damage than the weapon should be doing. Do you not meet the stat requirements to hold it in standard mode or something?

[Celltastic]

Originally posted by rpc:

i tested with many type of enemies armored or not it doesnt change a lot the result
and no the alabard doesnt have any holy damage it can improve damage and defence with the ash

the wiki says it does holy damage
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Golden+Halberd

[pRaX]

Originally posted by Celltastic:

Originally posted by rpc:

i tested with many type of enemies armored or not it doesnt change a lot the result
and no the alabard doesnt have any holy damage it can improve damage and defence with the ash

the wiki says it does holy damage
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Golden+Halberd

My game clearly shows it does holy damage aswell. I guess OP is playing an exclusive version we ain't getting. Shame.

[Celltastic]

Originally posted by pRaX:

Originally posted by Celltastic:

the wiki says it does holy damage
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Golden+Halberd

My game clearly shows it does holy damage aswell. I guess OP is playing an exclusive version we ain't getting. Shame.

wait OP dosnet even have the game
theres no mouse symbol next to his name
so he might have a pirated copy or something and thats why stuff is different for him

[Tijger]

Originally posted by pRaX:

Originally posted by Celltastic:

the wiki says it does holy damage
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Golden+Halberd

My game clearly shows it does holy damage aswell. I guess OP is playing an exclusive version we ain't getting. Shame.

The Golden Halberd doesnt just scale with STR but also with Faith, of course. If you lack both of those then its going to kinda suck, methinks.