It's more immersive playing offline

[darkflame]

World is designed to be immersive, but it's hard to be immersed with sprawling graffiti everywhere, "this chest is trapped!, be wary of right!" etc.. there's never any surprises and pretty soon you're just going through the motions. First play-thru should be offline so you experience the world
Also wretched class > presets imo.. you actually have a reason to switch weapons and craft along the way

[defnotj4]

on the first run it's kinda cool being part of the communal experience, but beyond that, yeah i get it. turtle = dog

[Cleftin Twain]

Idk I love seeing the messages and blood stains, but everyone has a preference. Often times I will just ignore the messages now that I'm more used to the game itself as you can just ignore them, that being said I enjoy seeing the phantoms that let me know others are in the same area as me.

[Victor]

To me the Souls games have always been a cooperative experience at their core and messages and phantoms as well as external guides are part of that experience.

[Terrapin]

Agree. I've played the whole game except for a couple hours offline. I want to experience those things firsthand myself, not from someone elses experience.

[IG]

Originally posted by darkflame:

World is designed to be immersive, but it's hard to be immersed with sprawling graffiti everywhere, "this chest is trapped!, be wary of right!" etc.. there's never any surprises and pretty soon you're just going through the motions. First play-thru should be offline so you experience the world
Also wretched class > presets imo.. you actually have a reason to switch weapons and craft along the way

I don't understand the wretch argument at all, why wouldn't I want to switch weapons if I play another class? Never played wretch/waste of skin/deprived and I always switch weapons and armor.

[GrandTickler]

yeah been playing offline since day 1 and im not regretting it at all. i got my playstation buttons, my smooth stutterfree gameplay, and best of all not a single crash. i will swap to online mode in ng+ probably

[MOSLEY]

I agree about offline mode for first playthrough but not wretch.

You're going to be switching gear out whichever class you choose. The other classes give you better stat optimisation if you have a build in mind before you start. Wretch is actually useless unless you're doing an SL1 run.

[IG]

Originally posted by MOSLEY:

I agree about offline mode for first playthrough but not wretched.

You're going to be switching gear out whichever class you choose. The other classes give you better stat optimisation if you have a build in mind before you start. Wretched is actually useless unless you're doing an SL1 run.

I wish wretch had the best stat optimization ability, would actually make sense for experienced players to pick it then.

[MOSLEY]

Originally posted by Trunks55:

Originally posted by MOSLEY:

I agree about offline mode for first playthrough but not wretched.

You're going to be switching gear out whichever class you choose. The other classes give you better stat optimisation if you have a build in mind before you start. Wretched is actually useless unless you're doing an SL1 run.

I wish wretch had the best stat optimization ability, would actually make sense for experienced players to pick it then.

...but then literally every other class would be useless. Might as well just force everyone to start at level 1 with base stats and remove classes at that point.

[Gigantoad]

I played through all the game offline after realizing I was following messages instead of exploring. It really did kill immersion.

[Naur]

its was a great experience in demon soul on ps3 but since then I've turned off online on every soul game.. its a lot more immersive and seeing all the stain gets old and mostly for invasion, I absolutely hate those. No I don't want forced pvp in my pve game

[IG]

Originally posted by MOSLEY:

Originally posted by Trunks55:

I wish wretch had the best stat optimization ability, would actually make sense for experienced players to pick it then.

...but then literally every other class would be useless. Might as well just force everyone to start at level 1 with base stats and remove classes at that point.

Good point, I still think noobs would pick other classes, 'cuz the head start in level and equipment/spells is important to them, and if you are doing, let's say, a pure mage, the corresponding starting class would still have an optimal stat spread for that type of build.

[Snefru]

I agree on the messages first run as just seeing them took me away from the world. I do wish there was a toggle for just them though as the bloodstains added to the environment for me. I played it all offline except for my 3 forced invasions quest.

[cklambo]

Is this a dog?

[Ld7]

I like to play offline too in the first time, but since this is the first Souls game I'm playing at launch, I didn't want to miss the opportunity to play online when the game is on a peak.

When I played DS1, DS2 and DS3 it was hard to find people online, and helping other players to defeat bosses in coop is one of my favorite things