Strength build seems to be the weakest build for both PVP and PVE in Elden Ring.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

Strength build is just clumsy asf. I mean it doesn't normal and posture damage well... but its slow as hell, slow to react, slow to recover and bleed makes it looks like a overweight too pick... Why does from soft hate strength weapon so much? This is just my opinion. What do you guys think?

[Kyutaru]

Crucible Knights. They have slow attacks, they have high poise, they're a pain to fight. Heavy weapons can be too if the player is skilled enough to not try to be the aggressor. Strength is a defensive build, focused on staggers/shields. If it was high speed then it'd be the OP build and you'd see nothing but Strength builds stunlocking everyone to death. With great power comes great skill cap.

[Wicked]

What is with strenght players and their victim mentality. Strenght is just fine what.

[BirdDinosaur]

all these posts about strength being weak makes me want to make my own build. I'm a dex user with twin blades... maybe I can make a strength build that is a bit more aggressive using the more strength scaling twin blades... idk, been trying to do the same with spell blade but to no success. I think I got used to being able to react quickly

[defnotj4]

big weapons will stunlock and trivialize anything thats not a boss, and do silly high damage on bosses with jumping R2's and royal knights resolve

i never bring out the big guns in pvp but fighting against people who do, they perform best when they understand they have hyper armour and basically everyone else doesn't, but yeah trading against bleedbuilds seems like a gamble

[D. Flame]

Running a GS and Shield quality set. It feels even worse. Just saw a Slv1 player doing more damage per hit with a tiny club than my 40/40 Quality Claymore, and they can even land more hits in the same openings.

Welcome to INT/Bleed Souls!

[60mph gorilla]

Strength is fine till you come across enemies that can't be stunlocked or perform an animation that can't be interrupted. then oh dear

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

引用自 Barf：

Strength is fine till you come across enemies that can't be stunlocked or perform an animation that can't be interrupted. then oh dear

Yeah, stun lock is good until this happens. Then you feel stupidly stupid.

[ShivaX]

Strength isn't great, mostly because bosses have such short windows for attacks.

Add in basically "free" bleeds for many weapons (as in the stats are on par with non-bleed weapons, but they get it anyway) and it can't really compete.

You can have a giant sword/hammer and hit for X damage in Y time. Or you can have two katanas and hit for X/2 3-4 times in Y time and also probably proc bleed which is worth 3 or 4X. Also you can swing for X/2 many times when Strength can't swing at all.

Strength has Jumping Attacks imo. Guard Counters don't work for most bosses (again the issue of no time to do them). Poise damage is... questionable. It feels like most enemies are "can be staggered" or "can't be staggered" and if they're in the first camp, a katana staggers them just about as well as a Greatsword.

Even if bleed vanished from the game, I think Dex weapons would just be better because of how most boss fights are set up right now. Tiny windows of attack and the need to recover and be ready to avoid again favors fast weapons that can hit once or twice and withdraw while still having a healthy stamina pool and not being locked into an animation.

(PVE that is, in PVP I have no real idea)

Edit: And Quality is basically pointless. With as high as the caps are, you're almost always better taking the better scaling stat to 60 (or even 80) and calling it a day from what I've seen from number-crunchers.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

引用自 ShivaX：

Strength isn't great, mostly because bosses have such short windows for attacks.

Add in basically "free" bleeds for many weapons (as in the stats are on par with non-bleed weapons, but they get it anyway) and it can't really compete.

You can have a giant sword/hammer and hit for X damage in Y time. Or you can have two katanas and hit for X/2 3-4 times in Y time and also probably proc bleed which is worth 4X. Also you can swing for X/2 many times when Strength can't swing at all.

Strength has Jumping Attacks imo. Guard Counters don't work for most bosses (again the issue of no time to do them). Poise damage is... questionable. It feels like most enemies are "can be staggered" or "can't be staggered" and if they're in the first camp, a katana staggers them just about as well as a Greatsword.

Even if bleed vanished from the game, I think Dex weapons would just be better because of how most boss fights are set up right now. Tiny windows of attack and the need to recover and be ready to avoid again favors fast weapons that can hit once or twice and withdraw while still having a healthy stamina pool and not being locked into an animation.

You are on point. That is how I feel too. I enjoyed strength build in DS games. In Elden Ring, strength build is challenging to play as you have pointed out.

[Kyutaru]

引用自 LangrisserWWE：

引用自 Barf：

Strength is fine till you come across enemies that can't be stunlocked or perform an animation that can't be interrupted. then oh dear

Yeah, stun lock is good until this happens. Then you feel stupidly stupid.

How did I know the first post you would reply to would be one calling strength trash? I guess I'm just psychic. That or your initial post didn't really read like a call for opinions but a phishing attempt for validation and confirmation of your bias.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

引用自 Kyutaru：

引用自 LangrisserWWE：

Yeah, stun lock is good until this happens. Then you feel stupidly stupid.

How did I know the first post you would reply to would be one calling strength trash? I guess I'm just psychic. That or your initial post didn't really read like a call for opinions but a phishing attempt for validation and confirmation of your bias.

I didn't call it trash, I just said it is the weakest build compare to bleed and magic. You are easily trigger aren't you? Did I hurt your feelings?

[Kyutaru]

引用自 LangrisserWWE：

引用自 Kyutaru：

How did I know the first post you would reply to would be one calling strength trash? I guess I'm just psychic. That or your initial post didn't really read like a call for opinions but a phishing attempt for validation and confirmation of your bias.

I didn't call it trash, I just said it is the weakest build compare to bleed and magic. You are easily trigger aren't you? Did I hurt your feelings?

What part makes me seem angry? LOL. Projecting much? I guess you're triggered.

[I'm cucked]

Strength is just fine. I'm not amazing at these games, I consider myself "ight". I can do strength builds just fine.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

引用自 Kyutaru：

引用自 LangrisserWWE：

I didn't call it trash, I just said it is the weakest build compare to bleed and magic. You are easily trigger aren't you? Did I hurt your feelings?

What part makes me seem angry? LOL. Projecting much? I guess you're triggered.

Oh projections lol... I can see you are hurt.

[Kyutaru]

引用自 LangrisserWWE：

引用自 Kyutaru：

What part makes me seem angry? LOL. Projecting much? I guess you're triggered.

Oh projections lol... I can see you are hurt.

No for real, quote the part of my comment that you interpret as anger. I'd love to know why you think that to be the case. The only explanation seems to be that you're angry from reading my message, and with good reason, and are now projecting your feelings onto me regarding being triggered or having feelings hurt. As that was nowhere at all in my message so where did such an idea come from? From your own feelings.