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Timbermaw Mar 20, 2022 @ 6:43am
Why do the souls series have soft-caps?
They should let people build their character however they want and make all points equal.
So what if someone wants to invest in 99 vigor? He would have no strength/dex/int and deal pitiful damage.
Opinions?
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lipe Mar 20, 2022 @ 6:46am 
i think that the problem is that if someone gets to level 200+, they can make really OP one shot builds, softcaps are not here to limit us, they're here so they can limit other high level players so they dont make a 99 dex and 99 arcane bleed build + whatever they have
James Mar 20, 2022 @ 6:47am 
It limits build diversity but makes the experience slightly easier to balance.

I mostly just object to the fact it nearly requires external resources to understand.
p00se2 Mar 20, 2022 @ 6:50am 
Originally posted by Timbermaw:
So what if someone wants to invest in 99 vigor? He would have no strength/dex/int and deal pitiful damage.

wrong

if you wanna have 99 in all your stats
you can have 99 in all your stats

is this some failed bait ? :lunar2019deadpanpig:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKer-7LehP8
Last edited by p00se2; Mar 20, 2022 @ 6:51am
Sharethepain Mar 20, 2022 @ 6:51am 
Originally posted by lipe:
i think that the problem is that if someone gets to level 200+, they can make really OP one shot builds, softcaps are not here to limit us, they're here so they can limit other high level players so they dont make a 99 dex and 99 arcane bleed build + whatever they have

If you have that high stats you will also be matched with similar stats people so you will never one shot them, I can tell from experience as I have done pvp in this game at 250-350 level and got a match every few seconds for whatever reason. The only thing thats legit instant kill no matter what is inescapable frenzy.
Timbermaw Mar 20, 2022 @ 6:51am 
Originally posted by p00se2:
Originally posted by Timbermaw:
So what if someone wants to invest in 99 vigor? He would have no strength/dex/int and deal pitiful damage.

wrong

if you wanna have 99 in all your stats
you can have 99 in all your stats

is this some failed bait ? :lunar2019deadpanpig:
what
p00se2 Mar 20, 2022 @ 6:53am 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKer-7LehP8


skip to 8:36
you can see all stats 99

Originally posted by Timbermaw:
what


that
Timbermaw Mar 20, 2022 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by lipe:
i think that the problem is that if someone gets to level 200+, they can make really OP one shot builds, softcaps are not here to limit us, they're here so they can limit other high level players so they dont make a 99 dex and 99 arcane bleed build + whatever they have
Ok but at 99 dex and 99 arcane he should also have low vigor and he would also die easily unless we're talking incredibly high levels which no one would reach or even engage at pvp
Timbermaw Mar 20, 2022 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by p00se2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKer-7LehP8


skip to 8:36
you can see all stats 99

Originally posted by Timbermaw:
what


that
I'm not talking about some cheat engine created character, I'm talking about regular gameplay here
p00se2 Mar 20, 2022 @ 6:57am 
so ? makes no difference
it just takes longer to get there by farming "regular" gameplay :steamfacepalm:


Originally posted by Timbermaw:
They should let people build their character however they want and make all points equal.
So what if someone wants to invest in 99 vigor? He would have no strength/dex/int and

as you can see
you can build your character how you want to
and make all points equal
Last edited by p00se2; Mar 20, 2022 @ 6:58am
James Mar 20, 2022 @ 7:00am 
Originally posted by p00se2:
if you wanna have 99 in all your stats
you can have 99 in all your stats
99 is the HARD cap... are you trying to troll here?
p00se2 Mar 20, 2022 @ 7:02am 
Originally posted by James:
Originally posted by p00se2:
if you wanna have 99 in all your stats
you can have 99 in all your stats
99 is the HARD cap... are you trying to troll here?
are you missing the context here ? :lunar2019deadpanpig:
James Mar 20, 2022 @ 7:06am 
Originally posted by p00se2:
Originally posted by James:
99 is the HARD cap... are you trying to troll here?
are you missing the context here ? :lunar2019deadpanpig:

the context is the discussion is about the soft caps
p00se2 Mar 20, 2022 @ 7:10am 
Originally posted by James:
Originally posted by p00se2:
are you missing the context here ? :lunar2019deadpanpig:

the context is the discussion is about the soft caps

they asking for having 99 points in a stat
they think its not possible to build your character how you want to and have 99 in all stats
but it is very much possible to have 99 points in all stats
as seen in the video

i dont think the OP understands what a softcap is
mewlynx Mar 20, 2022 @ 7:11am 
easier to balance high level players. as to why that's necessary, idk. from doesn't want people stomping their games at high level I guess
James Mar 20, 2022 @ 7:13am 
Originally posted by p00se2:
Originally posted by James:

the context is the discussion is about the soft caps

they asking for having 99 points in a stat
they think its not possible to build your character how you want to and have 99 in all stats
but it is very much possible to have 99 points in all stats
as seen in the video

i dont think the OP understands what a softcap is

It is possible that the OP doesn't know what it is, but I took

Originally posted by Timbermaw:
They should let people build their character however they want and make all points equal.

to be about linear scaling.

But if you take

Originally posted by Timbermaw:
So what if someone wants to invest in 99 vigor?

literally, I guess I can see how you might conclude OP is confused about soft caps.

Your initial response led me to assume YOU didn't know what soft caps were as you just pointed out the hard caps (which if we ARE talking about soft caps is irrelevant)
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