uhh whats up with the dogs at mohgwyn?!

[Archdeacon Monseigneur]

so yeah, i am trying to clear the blood marsh so i can fight the boss for the surgeons set, and to be frank, the birds are bad enough, but then there's these dogs on top of all the rocks in the area, and guess what, they literally one-shot me.

i have 49 vigor (1680 hp) and full tree sentinel armor + a bloody gilded greatshield+12 which should safeguard me more than enough against any mob, let alone a mere dog, but these things? jesus, i dunno if things have always been like this, but they do a small windup and just 1-shot me. 2 shot if i keep my shield up as they drain all my stamina in 1 hit and stance break me, and then another dog seals the deal while im staggered for a 100% - 0% health hit.

whats the deal with these things? is there some neat trick i don't know about? trying to deal with them as a melee build is pure pain.

[Andrew. (the weeblord)]

Throwing knives are designed to aggro enemies from afar

[Archdeacon Monseigneur]

Originally posted by Andrew. (the weeblord):

Throwing knives are designed to aggro enemies from afar

they come in packs m8 sometimes 6 of them at once. so far the only way i've been able to somewhat deal with them is by using the weapon art from Mohgwyn's sacred spear, but if one of them survives and i don't spot it, it jumps me from behind and just necks me in 1 hit.

like, how is one suppose to deal with 6 dogs that all have the ability to one-shot regardless of armor, without using any sort of cheese?

besides, you can't range pull them because they are sitting on elevated platforms (rocks) which means you can't see them, let alone aim at them from afar.

[plas]

Just jump on the horse and ride... Just because it's there doesn't mean it's there for you to kill. Come back before NG+ and see if they still body you. The balance on some things like these seems utter garbage. Why is a moldy crow hitting harder than a truck? Birds have thin hollow bones.

[Ashtrails]

Shooting them from horseback, or mounted combat in general works pretty well.
The weapon drag ( no lock-on) mostly does the trick, and Torrent is fast enough to get away before getting hit ( or can just jump).

The npc invasions may dismount you though, so that sucks, so don't cross the border that triggers it, or deal with that first. Got me good a couple of times.

[Archdeacon Monseigneur]

Originally posted by plas:

Just jump on the horse and ride... Just because it's there doesn't mean it's there for you to kill. Come back before NG+ and see if they still body you. The balance on some things like these seems utter garbage. Why is a moldy crow hitting harder than a truck? Birds have thin hollow bones.

running around on the horse aggros the big birds which constantly catch you even on horseback. so far my tactic has been to deal with the birds and then go for the dogs, and its pretty frustrating since the birds aren't exactly super easy to take down and once i've done it i just get 1 popped by some dog that sneaked up on me from behind

[Hekk]

They are just happy to see you

[Enderspoons]

You can also encounter these things at the Writhing Blood ruins sitting on the border between Mt. Gelmir and Altus Plateau. I'm pretty sure their attack is bugged and has an active hitbox every single frame rather than one hitbox with multiple active frames, meaning you will die if they so much as look at you funny.

[Archdeacon Monseigneur]

Originally posted by Enderspoons:

You can also encounter these things at the Writhing Blood ruins sitting on the border between Mt. Gelmir and Altus Plateau. I'm pretty sure their attack is bugged and has an active hitbox every single frame rather than one hitbox with multiple active frames, meaning you will die if they so much as look at you funny.

yeah that's what's confusing me, like no enemy in the game, except maybe Radahn's meteor (before he was nerfed), have one-shotted me so far, and these dogs just casually walk up to me then give me a grim stare and i just keel over and die.

[Ashtrails]

oh, also there's a beast repellent torch.
it will stop working, when you attack but it may help setup your kills properly.

[Archdeacon Monseigneur]

Originally posted by Ashtrails:

oh, also there's a beast repellent torch.
it will stop working, when you attack but it may help setup your kills properly.

ah right, thanks for the tip. i suppose maybe i'll try either that or just throw beast repellent pots at them

[Zach]

there is currently a bug with those dogs where their charged bite attacks 100s of times per frame i'm sure. basically instant bleed and instant death. best thing to do is just kill them from afar or avoid them completely.

[Nauct]

I learned that the hard way too. Was surprising, I just avoid them now or fight them on horseback

[Archdeacon Monseigneur]

Oh btw, for anyone reading this. if you kill Mohg, you can no longer spawn the "Nameless White Mask" invaders and thus can't get the set.... sweet, looks like i just wasted like 3 hours of my time in this endeavor... sigh...