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Obi (Banned) Mar 19, 2022 @ 4:53pm
No difference between Vagabond and Samurai
Stat wise these two starting classes are completely identical. It is redundancy. Both are quality classes. So why ?

The katana is better than the long sword but the halberd is excellent reach. Very equal starting classes and I don't see why two of them.
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The Commendatore Mar 19, 2022 @ 4:55pm 
Wretch the Chosen One.
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ZTL-Altima Mar 19, 2022 @ 4:59pm 
Originally posted by Obi:
Stat wise these two starting classes are completely identical. It is redundancy. Both are quality classes. So why ?

The katana is better than the long sword but the halberd is excellent reach. Very equal starting classes and I don't see why two of them.
All classes are the same when past certain levels.

Classes influence the first area only, if you upgrade at normal pace.

Longsword to me is the best weapon in the game (was also the case for DS3) until level 30 at least.
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Obi (Banned) Mar 19, 2022 @ 5:04pm 
I can't decide why would I choose Vagabond or Samurai over the other. It makes no sense they are identical. Probably the Samurai is slightly more defensive and ranged while the Vagabond has 100% absorb shield and thus more aggressive. But their stats are so similar that it is just nonsense
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The Commendatore Mar 19, 2022 @ 5:06pm 
Doesn't the katana the Samurai start with have bleed damage? It'd slightly edge out to deal more damage early on.

Bow for range is also nice.
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StrayBullet Mar 19, 2022 @ 5:14pm 
@OP Not true, Vagabond can easily save you 7 levels over Samurai depending on your build. Paladin Strength Faith build for example, 3 Vigor (will be pumped up) 2 Dex (might be dump stat) 1 Faith (will be pumped up) 1 Arcane (might be dump stat).

Basically if your build uses the stat you want it as high as possible at start, and if your build neglects the stat, you want it as low as possible.

I even forgot to add in Strength and Endurance for another +3 Levels Netted. - 1 Level from Mind, so you could get +9 levels from Vagabond vs Samurai if you're going Faith Strength Paladin.

Wretch is only good for Soul Level 1 Playthroughs. It is the worst to start with since it's not specialized into any style of play.
Last edited by StrayBullet; Mar 19, 2022 @ 5:22pm
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