Dragon Communion abilities

[Nythand]

After the recent patches i am sad to see that the dragon spells have not been changed, High mana cost, low damange, long animations, split stat scaling, they are frankly just awful, anyone else figure out a way to make them worth while? just seems like alot of effort for low reward.

[Timbermaw]

They aren't split stat scaling, they just scale off faith and need arcane to learn. The breaths are good against groups (in pvp) and go pretty far

[Boogeyman]

the Dragon Maw spell is really good. Breath attacks good damage once you get the opportunity. Greyrolls raw also comes with a debuff.

You won't have a spell only character with these though... i use them on a mostly faith/ light dex character with twinblade.

[Jork]

Origineel geplaatst door Nythand:

After the recent patches i am sad to see that the dragon spells have not been changed, High mana cost, low damange, long animations, split stat scaling, they are frankly just awful, anyone else figure out a way to make them worth while? just seems like alot of effort for low reward.

lmao

[Old Man Gamer (OMG)]

I have yet to use any of them. I am not even sure how to use them. With so many other things to do in the game for skills and such, I have not gotten around to them.

[Jork]

Origineel geplaatst door Old Man Gamer (OMG):

I have yet to use any of them. I am not even sure how to use them. With so many other things to do in the game for skills and such, I have not gotten around to them.

dragon spells count as incantations, you need a seal to cast incantations. if you meet the stat requirements of the incantation, you can then cast it with a seal equipped.

you can buy a starter seal from the twin maiden husk merchant at the roundtable hold.

there's also a unique dragon seal you can get at the stonesword fogwall dungeon at the start of the game.

i just can't help but laugh at posts like this. the dragon spells are honestly ridiculously powerful, i've been using them as my paladin/dragon knight character for the vast majority of the game and they're STILL ridiculously powerful even in the later parts of the game. honestly, the breath spells need a nerf if anything, especially frost and rot breath.

i can only assume people who somehow think the dragon spells suck don't realize you can upgrade seals at the blacksmith to boost damage of incantations. i've been using the bestial seal, i've had it at +13 for a long time, dragon breath spells obliterate pretty much everything, including bosses. i'm at the mountaintops of the giants and they're still working great.

[Nythand]

Origineel geplaatst door Jork:

Origineel geplaatst door Old Man Gamer (OMG):

I have yet to use any of them. I am not even sure how to use them. With so many other things to do in the game for skills and such, I have not gotten around to them.

dragon spells count as incantations, you need a seal to cast incantations. if you meet the stat requirements of the incantation, you can then cast it with a seal equipped.

you can buy a starter seal from the twin maiden husk merchant at the roundtable hold.

there's also a unique dragon seal you can get at the stonesword fogwall dungeon at the start of the game.

i just can't help but laugh at posts like this. the dragon spells are honestly ridiculously powerful, i've been using them as my paladin/dragon knight character for the vast majority of the game and they're STILL ridiculously powerful even in the later parts of the game. honestly, the breath spells need a nerf if anything, especially frost and rot breath.

i can only assume people who somehow think the dragon spells suck don't realize you can upgrade seals at the blacksmith to boost damage of incantations. i've been using the bestial seal, i've had it at +13 for a long time, dragon breath spells obliterate pretty much everything, including bosses. i'm at the mountaintops of the giants and they're still working great.

powerful compared to what exactly? in comparison to sorcery? sorceries hit harder and are faster to cast, any of the breath attacks can do around 900 damage on end game bosses using an entire mana bar with 40 mind. that is 900 damage for 40 mind worth of mana, any spell caster sorcery build can easily do 10000 with a whole mana bar. they are strong in the open world but they are absolutely useless in end game. the only benefit is the status buffs. Not to mention the animations take so long to cast you will almost certainly never get them off 1v1 against bosses, you have to use a summon. They are objectively awful. They are only useful in open world encounters and even then its still sub par to other magic.

[Mikamus]

Dragon claw double slam and the upgraded breath spells do outrageous damage. There has to be a downside.

[Yagger]

just use rot breath, especially in pvp

[Lorenzo]

breath attacks are busted, you only have to time it correctly, that's all there is to it

[Nythand]

Origineel geplaatst door Lorenzo543:

breath attacks are busted, you only have to time it correctly, that's all there is to it

i have no clue how doing 900 damage to any boss using 40 mind worth of mana in any world is busted.

[Nythand]

Origineel geplaatst door Yagger:

just use rot breath, especially in pvp

Again is the status effects the only reason to run them? if so you might as well not use them and allocate the stats to something better like a pure int or dex build or even bleed.

[Mikamus]

Origineel geplaatst door Nythand:

Origineel geplaatst door Lorenzo543:

breath attacks are busted, you only have to time it correctly, that's all there is to it

i have no clue how doing 900 damage to any boss using 40 mind worth of mana in any world is busted.

Because scarlet rot does obscene tick damage. The upgraded breath spells absolutely chunk bosses.

[Jork]

Origineel geplaatst door Lorenzo543:

breath attacks are busted, you only have to time it correctly, that's all there is to it

this.

nythand, you already made up your mind thinking the dragon spells suck. i'm not interested in getting into a debate over balance in a game.

you're doing something very wrong. if you prefer sorcery, stick with sorcery, that's fine. i just genuinely don't understand how someone can think the dragon spells suck because that hasn't been my experience with them whatsoever.

i'm doing about 1500 damage with two breath casts one after the other. my mind stat is 15, i've barely levelled it. the range on the breath is ridiculous. the long casting time isn't that big a deal considering you aren't supposed to try using it in the heat of battle, it's meant to be a pre-emptive strike.

i'm not even using an optimal seal to use the dragon magic. i have a +13 bestial seal. it was all i had early in the game and i ran out of smithing stones to get it higher. it's been kicking everything's ass.

despite that, i have cast it mid-battle quite a few times successfully. it's risky, but the payoff has been worth it for me.

i don't know what you're doing wrong compared to pretty much everyone else who picks up and just plays all agree that they're very strong.

[Lorenzo]

Origineel geplaatst door Nythand:

Origineel geplaatst door Lorenzo543:

breath attacks are busted, you only have to time it correctly, that's all there is to it

i have no clue how doing 900 damage to any boss using 40 mind worth of mana in any world is busted.

i use the big scarlet rot breath, i always do at least 1.2k - 1.5k damage PLUS scarlet rot unless the enemy is immune to that status effect, maybe you should try changing which breath attack you use because you may be using it against an enemy that's resistant to it

[Yagger]

Origineel geplaatst door Nythand:

Origineel geplaatst door Yagger:

just use rot breath, especially in pvp

Again is the status effects the only reason to run them? if so you might as well not use them and allocate the stats to something better like a pure int or dex build or even bleed.

the stats aren't much by any means to use it, it deals damage, stunlocks and rots, aaand it pisses people off when you use it, nothing but wins