List of sorceries and incantations whats needs to be UPPED

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Hope all agreed with that. In my opinion all sorceries and incantations must be playable. Because right now alot of them useless in PVP/PVE.
Try to show my opinion about all what need to buffs.
PS Alot thanks for 1.03 version and balanced not in list spells. Hope you balanced other one and not forget about incantations.

Incantations to BUFF/UP:

Beast Claw - UP cast speed
Black Flame - UP damage
Black Flame Blade - UP effect time
Black Flame Ritual - dunno what to up but UP
Bloodboon - add damage
Bloodflame Talons - add cast speed
Burn, O Flame! - add dmg
Discus of Light - add distance
Elden Stars - add damage (legendary skill but useless as f***)
Flame of the Fell God - add alot damage (legendary skill deal less dmg then standart sorceries)
Flame, Fall Upon Them - add damage
Ancient Dragon Lightning strike - add cancelcast immunity
Fortissax's lightning spear - add cancelcast immunity
Frozen Lighting Spear - add dmg add cancelcast immunity
Giantsflame Take Thee - increase cast speed (dmg like Comet but casting soooo long)
Lansseax's Glaive - add damage add cancelcast immunity
Lightning Strike - increase speed of projectile
Pest Threads - INCREASE DISTANCE (Why NPC can shoot long range and when you learn it you can shot only to yourself legs :DDD)
Radagon's Rings of Light - Increase cast speed or make cancelcast immunity
Swarm of Flies - Increase swarm projectile speed
Triple Rings of Light - Increase distance and damage
Surge, O Flame! - Increase distance and damage
Scarlet Aeonia - Add cancelcast immunity, increase fly to target distance, increase ground speed.
Gurranq's Beast Claw - Increase casting speed, add knock effect.


Sorceries to BUFF/UP (PVP/PVE):
Briars of Punishment - Increase damage, increase projectile speed.
Briars of Sin - Increase damage, add special effect to knock enemy.
Great Oracular Bubble - Increase damage and live time.
Oracle Bubbles - Increase damage and live time.
Rancorcall - hightly increase projectile speed to make them concurent to Ancient Death Rancor (less dmg but fastly like Swift Glintstone Shard)
Rykard's Rancor - increase damage and explosion speed
Roiling Magma - increase damage
Explosive Ghostflame - add knock effect maybe
Tibia's Summons - increase casting speed

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All skills will tested by me with 99 int 99 Faith 99 Arcane with max "gear"
I mean Best in Slot equipment and full buffs for every skill (for example:Lusat's Glintstone Staff main hand + Staff of the Guilty off hand + Alberich's Pointed Hat + x2 spell talisman to testing "Briars of Punishment and Briars of Sin)

PPS
Incantations to NERF (PVP):
Frenzied burst - NERF (just remove full stun effect or make it microstun)

[Umbral Priestess]

You left out scarlet Aeonia. Worst spell in the entire game. for that slot cost, FP. and what it does. it needs an overhaul at this point, not just a buff.

But if you want a spell that makes you open for free target practice then it's the best spell.

[815|Shouldabeen]

I didn't read your whole list, but blackflame blade has a very short duration because it has a very powerful effect and almost 0 cast time. I think that one is working as intended.

[Matsunaga™]

So many "blood... bloood blood..." all we need is blooborne for pc :P

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Originally posted by Umbral Priestess:

You left out scarlet Aeonia. Worst spell in the entire game. for that slot cost, FP. and what it does. it needs an overhaul at this point, not just a buff.

But if you want a spell that makes you open for free target practice then it's the best spell.

Added my opinion about that.

Scarlet Aeonia - Add cancelcast immunity, increase fly to target distance, increase ground speed.

[Umbral Priestess]

Originally posted by Ephemeral Sin:

Originally posted by Umbral Priestess:

You left out scarlet Aeonia. Worst spell in the entire game. for that slot cost, FP. and what it does. it needs an overhaul at this point, not just a buff.

But if you want a spell that makes you open for free target practice then it's the best spell.

Added my opinion about that.

Scarlet Aeonia - Add cancelcast immunity, increase fly to target distance, increase ground speed.

It's bigger issue is it's damage, when malenia uses it on you and it hits, hurts pretty bad. when you hit someone or something with it? it tickles.

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Originally posted by 815|Shouldabeen:

I didn't read your whole list, but blackflame blade has a very short duration because it has a very powerful effect and almost 0 cast time. I think that one is working as intended.

Blackflame blade give you 10% dmg. For example you can use Magic scorpion plus Magic weapon buff and get 20% dmg without rebuff every 5 second.

[Frozen Dervish]

Originally posted by Ephemeral Sin:

Originally posted by 815|Shouldabeen:

I didn't read your whole list, but blackflame blade has a very short duration because it has a very powerful effect and almost 0 cast time. I think that one is working as intended.

Blackflame blade give you 10% dmg. For example you can use Magic scorpion plus Magic weapon buff and get 20% dmg without rebuff every 5 second.

And the more hp an enemy has the more powerful it is.
If you do 600 damage a hit and an enemy has 20,000 hp that is 660 per hit now and 200 damage per second or so for a few seconds which is vastly more damage than magic weapon.

If an enemy has 60,000 hp? That 200 damage per second is now 600 damage per second.

And with how spastic enemies are getting 1 hit in for 2k damage is huge.

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Originally posted by Frozen Dervish:

Originally posted by Ephemeral Sin:

Blackflame blade give you 10% dmg. For example you can use Magic scorpion plus Magic weapon buff and get 20% dmg without rebuff every 5 second.

And the more hp an enemy has the more powerful it is.
If you do 600 damage a hit and an enemy has 20,000 hp that is 660 per hit now and 200 damage per second or so for a few seconds which is vastly more damage than magic weapon.

If an enemy has 60,000 hp? That 200 damage per second is now 600 damage per second.

And with how spastic enemies are getting 1 hit in for 2k damage is huge.

20% stable damage alot better than waste 1 timing count for rebuff useless spell. Black flame usefull only if not being rebuffed every 5 second.

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Originally posted by ☂ jeanmatsunaga.com.br:

So many "blood... bloood blood..." all we need is blooborne for pc :P

We need stable and balanced game. :)

[815|Shouldabeen]

Originally posted by Ephemeral Sin:

Originally posted by 815|Shouldabeen:

I didn't read your whole list, but blackflame blade has a very short duration because it has a very powerful effect and almost 0 cast time. I think that one is working as intended.

Blackflame blade give you 10% dmg. For example you can use Magic scorpion plus Magic weapon buff and get 20% dmg without rebuff every 5 second.

Something about this is not correct and have proof. I was testing BlackFlame Blade on a giant earlier because I was getting ready to play a faith build around it. Just whacking it with an unupgraded warhawk talon did 72 damage. Using BFB the attack did 370 damage.

This is on my NG+3 save file with 80 faith and a +24 godslayer seal, but from my calculations, that's a lot more than 10% damage. Even if the warhawk talon was fully upgraded, it would still be a lot more than 10% damage.

[ZTL-Altima]

Projectile game will never transpose the "support" tier in PvP. Useful/annoying when part of a gank, sitting duck 90% of the time on 1v1 unless played in a style close to griefing (which will 90% result in mage dead anyway). Use projectiles but get your melee game up to standards.

[XGear]

Its impossible not believe on Open Post after a so well made post. If i was From Software this changes would be made fast. The guy talks with sense.

Let me give a : "Gotta have it" points.

Also on dragon incantations Breaths i would add Armor, not Iframe armor just not be interrupted while casting is all right.

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Originally posted by Parsify:

Projectile game will never transpose the "support" tier in PvP. Useful/annoying when part of a gank, sitting duck 90% of the time on 1v1 unless played in a style close to griefing (which will 90% result in mage dead anyway). Use projectiles but get your melee game up to standards.

I not offer instantly projectile like Frenzied burst.

I talk about do it faster. Have semi speed as starter Astrologer Glinstone Shard.

Glinstone spells now mostly balanced. I hope developers make other skills balanced too. Because right now most of them have perfect animations and look great, but because low dmg / low speed / insane slow casting speed - players not use it!

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Originally posted by XGear:

Its impossible not believe on Open Post after a so well made post. If i was From Software this changes would be made fast. The guy talks with sense.

Let me give a : "Gotta have it" points.

Also on dragon incantations Breaths i would add Armor, not Iframe armor just not be interrupted while casting is all right.

Thanks ;D

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Originally posted by 815|Shouldabeen:

Originally posted by Ephemeral Sin:

Blackflame blade give you 10% dmg. For example you can use Magic scorpion plus Magic weapon buff and get 20% dmg without rebuff every 5 second.

Something about this is not correct and have proof. I was testing BlackFlame Blade on a giant earlier because I was getting ready to play a faith build around it. Just whacking it with an unupgraded warhawk talon did 72 damage. Using BFB the attack did 370 damage.

This is on my NG+3 save file with 80 faith and a +24 godslayer seal, but from my calculations, that's a lot more than 10% damage. Even if the warhawk talon was fully upgraded, it would still be a lot more than 10% damage.

You can use magic weapon buff + magic scorpion buff + magic flask buff and it be greater then black flame profit. Without rebuffing every 5 second.