rivers of blood...

[Cain]

ive done about 30 invasions now after the update 1.03 and the rivers of blood is kinda op now nad i feel needs to cost both health and fp and it needs some damage to be lowered because when you got 2 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rushing you down its kinda hard to pressure them off of you without like a great or collassal weapon that can poise their attacks and hit multiple people for high damage..... pls from nerf rivers and moonveil since while moonveil can be dodged by someone only brainlessly using its ash of war the rivers is damn near impossible to dodge.........

[DAWN OF THE DEAD]

before patch i talked with guy who used rivers of blood and we thought its kinda op already after patch things got better :D

[Mr.Fuzzynuts]

I mean it’s not that OP. It’s up there with moonveil. Now the burning man deathblight shield build… that was OP but they patched it :(

[Nero Armis]

would love to know your build.

[Cain]

Originally posted by Gigachadx:

I mean it’s not that OP. It’s up there with moonveil. Now the burning man deathblight shield build… that was OP but they patched it :(

dude... it can basically be cast outta a sprint and i ♥♥♥♥ you not, half those people insta bled me in the first 2 hits of the weapon art with if i dodge the fist part i would than haveta avoid a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nother 3 hit combo of the same attack and than a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ final slash..... its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ op as ♥♥♥♥ and honestly i think they should do what the chaos blade from ds3 had of even just attacking with the weapon costs health because honestly its way stronger than moonveil rn......

[Patrick Bateman]

Originally posted by Gigachadx:

I mean it’s not that OP. It’s up there with moonveil. Now the burning man deathblight shield build… that was OP but they patched it :(

its pretty op, wanted to try arcane build, got dual whips with step, fairly balanced. have that katana and poise potion for idiots tryna ruin the 1v1 cuz it one shots every, single, person if the two parts land. sometimes need the third. stunned with bleed makes it a full combo. broken.

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by Nero Armis:

would love to know your build.

It's basically like this. Even this lame dude can down one of the hardest bosses with it. It's good at spamming and if you don't need to conserve FP then spam away!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjLT8HqZ9Q0

[Mr.Fuzzynuts]

Originally posted by Nero Armis:

would love to know your build.

Same. Does anybody have any hard numbers like how much arcane and dex we need to be dumping points in to before we start seeing the scaling get really good?

[Obergruppenführer]

moonveil was nerfed, read wiki, there are many weapons that can insta kill you in this game, you want them to nerf them all?

wait till you discover Bolt of Gransax, you can one shot anyone with it and it costs 0 FP to use with Cerulean Hidden Tear. People cry over overused weapons all the time, git gud.

[Matsuu]

I'm going to abuse this weapon as hard as I can to make moonveil plebs cry and I will only stop abusing it when moonveil gets nerfed <3 ty from for allowing me to fight cancer with cancer

[Cain]

Originally posted by Nero Armis:

would love to know your build.

im playing currently a chonky health pyro with 56 vig and the crimson amber medallion +2 and the erdtrees favor +2 to of set the lost 200 hp from the stargazer shard that lowers spell cost by 15% leaving me with 1700 hp and i am using the dragoncrest greathshield talisman too while wearing the confessor hood, vagabond gauntlets, night rider chest and blaidd's greaves. i also am using the godslayer talisman +25 and black knife dagger +8 and am considering adding that one critical dagger with bloodhound step just to try and deal with the moonveils and rivers of blood of the world. honestly its a survivable build that can basically be instakilled in less than a second by the rivers of blood at what seems like almost any level of improvement.... honestly i think on top of giving the rivers health costs i think that any weapon that afflicts bleed needs to lose scaling again to make it fair and not basically amazing normal weapons THAT ALSO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ destroy your health with percentage damage bleed procs in like 2 hits max sometimes with arcane weapons that cant have bleed should be left alone.

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by Gigachadx:

Originally posted by Nero Armis:

would love to know your build.

Same. Does anybody have any hard numbers like how much arcane and dex we need to be dumping points in to before we start seeing the scaling get really good?

Short version is it really doesn't matter how much arcane you put in, the scaling on the normal hits will never be good. It'll always be worse than the scaling on other similar katanas. What makes the Rivers of Blood special is purely the skill. If you aren't planning on skill spamming then do not use it.

[Cain]

Originally posted by Obergruppenführer:

moonveil was nerfed, read wiki, there are many weapons that can insta kill you in this game, you want them to nerf them all?

wait till you discover Bolt of Gransax, you can one shot anyone with it and it costs 0 FP to use with Cerulean Hidden Tear. People cry over overused weapons all the time, git gud.

no im fine with being insta killed but its being instakilled by something that hits 2 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ times in less than a second and applies massive bleed procs ontop of massive range and damage of the actual hits themselves.....

[Nero Armis]

Originally posted by Schrodinger:

Originally posted by Nero Armis:

would love to know your build.

im playing currently a chonky health pyro with 56 vig and the crimson amber medallion +2 and the erdtrees favor +2 to of set the lost 200 hp from the stargazer shard that lowers spell cost by 15% leaving me with 1700 hp and i am using the dragoncrest greathshield talisman too while wearing the confessor hood, vagabond gauntlets, night rider chest and blaidd's greaves. i also am using the godslayer talisman +25 and black knife dagger +8 and am considering adding that one critical dagger with bloodhound step just to try and deal with the moonveils and rivers of blood of the world. honestly its a survivable build that can basically be instakilled in less than a second by the rivers of blood at what seems like almost any level of improvement.... honestly i think on top of giving the rivers health costs i think that any weapon that afflicts bleed needs to lose scaling again to make it fair and not basically amazing normal weapons THAT ALSO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ destroy your health with percentage damage bleed procs in like 2 hits max sometimes with arcane weapons that cant have bleed should be left alone.

Thank you for sharing your build. I can imagine in pvp it would be like that. Sadly since hackers and such are a thing I am taking a big break from pvp. But more info on how to make this weapon great is always worthwhile. So thanks again!

[Cain]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

Originally posted by Gigachadx:

Same. Does anybody have any hard numbers like how much arcane and dex we need to be dumping points in to before we start seeing the scaling get really good?

Short version is it really doesn't matter how much arcane you put in, the scaling on the normal hits will never be good. It'll always be worse than the scaling on other similar katanas. What makes the Rivers of Blood special is purely the skill. If you aren't planning on skill spamming then do not use it.

yea dude it did like over like 2k to think at times 4k damage 2 bosses on just base damage alone of the full hit of the weaponart and the 2k number doesnt even really account for the bleed which is where the 3k to 4k part came from... like its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ even more ridiculus that that damage comes in like 3 seconds max at such large range and is easily spamable and does massive stagger damage too because of the 6 seperate hits....

[Lohikaarme]

From one broken thing, to another broken thing...