madness is just cheating in pvp

[Charles Vane]

first off i have no problem with bleeding even though im not using it,it builds up even if you dodge but you can still dodge the proc damage if you dont get hit, madness is just stupid man and if they dont nerf it im just gonna stop playing pvp entirely, dueling a guy with vykes spear madness builds up as i dodge everything and then unlike bleeding even if you dodge last hit that would otherwise proc madness, status effect kicks in and cancel out your rolling animation and you get damage and guy gets a free hit as well, imo this ♥♥♥♥ is just cheating in pvp , you are literally getting punished for something you keep dodging, literally madness procced like this at least 5 times in a 1.5 min fight, so normally i'd just go to steam recent players tab and block the ♥♥♥♥ out of this guy but thanks to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from software you can no longer do this, this ♥♥♥♥ should have been nerfed in the recent patch,its so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ broken when you exclusively stack focus armor and ring but still madness procs in 2 hits

[Ghostorias]

Charles Vane eredeti hozzászólása:

yeah you are probably level 300 playing with all kinda sorcery and incantations there is no way you are pure melee and dont complain about this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or maybe you dont do pvp at all

I'm actually level 125 and i PvP more than i do PvE so it sounds like you're mad because your bad

[Krono]

Oryx eredeti hozzászólása:

pretty sure the aoe of a madness attack isnt that large so stay a bit close and wait for the attack to stop then come up and attack lmao

And if they possess half a brain cell and dodge? If you each keep dodging each other's attacks, he's eventually going to build up madness and get a stun on you, letting him charge up a big attack and probably killing you in one hit. Unless the madness user plays stupidly and recklessly (which granted a lot of them do because of how absurdly strong it is), they are going to win 100% of the time.

[Is This Your Card? 69]

Dunno about you OP, but dodging a proc from bleed can also cancel your roll and stagger you even, happened to me numerous times. Fun.

[ZTL-Altima]

Oryx eredeti hozzászólása:

also if you're rolling into a man using madness thats your own issue, why would you legit get close to a person using any type of magic that has AOE?

To kill people faster, no patience. You can roll everything in the game, man. Madness are building up and confirming on iframes, as already stated (this is non standard behavior). The rolls are fine, but you can't use iframe dispell tech.

I think is bug, you should not be punished when perfectly dodging, but if intended, cool. We will wait and see how things go. For now, yes, let's keep more distance.

[blackroze]

Charles Vane eredeti hozzászólása:

first off i have no problem with bleeding even though im not using it,it builds up even if you dodge but you can still dodge the proc damage if you dont get hit, madness is just stupid man and if they dont nerf it im just gonna stop playing pvp entirely, dueling a guy with vykes spear madness builds up as i dodge everything and then unlike bleeding even if you dodge last hit that would otherwise proc madness, status effect kicks in and cancel out your rolling animation and you get damage and guy gets a free hit as well, imo this ♥♥♥♥ is just cheating in pvp , you are literally getting punished for something you keep dodging, literally madness procced like this at least 5 times in a 1.5 min fight, so normally i'd just go to steam recent players tab and block the ♥♥♥♥ out of this guy but thanks to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from software you can no longer do this, this ♥♥♥♥ should have been nerfed in the recent patch,its so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ broken when you exclusively stack focus armor and ring but still madness procs in 2 hits

everything goes in pvp my friend, every pvp player knows it

[Charles Vane]

Not Zane eredeti hozzászólása:

Dunno about you OP, but dodging a proc from bleed can also cancel your roll and stagger you even, happened to me numerous times. Fun.

i dunno i always played extra cautious when im 1 hit away from bleed proccing and always dodged it its not as unfair as madness though on madness dodge or not it doesnt matter

[nesukor]

Krono eredeti hozzászólása:

Oryx eredeti hozzászólása:

pretty sure the aoe of a madness attack isnt that large so stay a bit close and wait for the attack to stop then come up and attack lmao

And if they possess half a brain cell and dodge? If you each keep dodging each other's attacks, he's eventually going to build up madness and get a stun on you, letting him charge up a big attack and probably killing you in one hit. Unless the madness user plays stupidly and recklessly (which granted a lot of them do because of how absurdly strong it is), they are going to win 100% of the time.

if you're both dodge how is he gonna use the attack bro....

[TheBoyAlex]

I understand your frustration, cuz I am a katana enthusiast too. Played against madness with +25 Nagakiba with Blood Slash (sadly nerfed), switching to Rivers of Blood (pre-patch) and switching to hand of Malenia or Moonveil if there were 1 vs 2/3 situation.

Sadly when you fight against them on melee there is 50/50 chance you will either lose or win. I usually read their pattern when they do their animation and switch to either Rivers of Blood and try to stagger them or even kill them, or purely try to bait them as much as I can. In the end if madness gets you, don't be mad, you got the 50/50 chance so you lost it. Move one to another duel.
This is the only thing I can say to you. I'm sorry if might sounds disappointing.

[Krono]

Oryx eredeti hozzászólása:

if you're both dodge how is he gonna use the attack bro....

...Is this a trick question? I mean, I know you're "trolling" to get a rise out of people and all that, but this one just confuses me

[nesukor]

Krono eredeti hozzászólása:

Oryx eredeti hozzászólása:

if you're both dodge how is he gonna use the attack bro....

...Is this a trick question? I mean, I know you're "trolling" to get a rise out of people and all that, but this one just confuses me

im not trolling at all what lmao you said if they dodge how am i gonna dmg then, if they're dodging how are they gonna even use madness bro....

[DeathSpectrum]

MADNESS?? THIS IS ELDEN RING!!!!
sorry couldn't help myself.....

[sergantuss]

Charles Vane eredeti hozzászólása:

first off i have no problem with bleeding even though im not using it,it builds up even if you dodge but you can still dodge the proc damage if you dont get hit, madness is just stupid man and if they dont nerf it im just gonna stop playing pvp entirely, dueling a guy with vykes spear madness builds up as i dodge everything and then unlike bleeding even if you dodge last hit that would otherwise proc madness, status effect kicks in and cancel out your rolling animation and you get damage and guy gets a free hit as well, imo this ♥♥♥♥ is just cheating in pvp , you are literally getting punished for something you keep dodging, literally madness procced like this at least 5 times in a 1.5 min fight, so normally i'd just go to steam recent players tab and block the ♥♥♥♥ out of this guy but thanks to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from software you can no longer do this, this ♥♥♥♥ should have been nerfed in the recent patch,its so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ broken when you exclusively stack focus armor and ring but still madness procs in 2 hits

ooooh my dude...there is a stuff that muuuuch like muuuuch broken then madness.

[ZTL-Altima]

Not Zane eredeti hozzászólása:

Dunno about you OP, but dodging a proc from bleed can also cancel your roll and stagger you even, happened to me numerous times. Fun.

Bleed is strange. For most part, it retains original Souls behavior. It builds up, but does not confirm on iframes. But I've seen instances of very strange bleed confirms after perfect rolls. Some even seemed like lag.

[Eguzky]

Alternate take: No it's not because it's in the game, and stop whining about how YOUR OPPONENT tries to win against you.
Only sore losers whine about VALID THINGS used to defeat them in a PvP setting.

[Dandenno]

op is right, others are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥