Why does everyone pick the easy way to beat Elden Ring?

[Nyagger]

Almost every one of my friends is using summoning ashes, magic and weapons like the moonveil katana
every boss has one summoned phantom and they've beaten the game 2 weeks after release and moved on back to FFXIV or lost ark.

These people are supposedly the "well adjusted social" people that are miles ahead of "basement dwelling incel gamers" and all I see is people always picking the easiest way to victory to sour their experience in the game

[Falleax]

WHEN I'M FORCED TO FIGHT TWO OR THREE BOSSES AT ONCE AND THEY'RE ALL HYPER AGGRESSIVE AND TANKY YEAH IM GONNA SUMMON AN ASHY BOY
I don't need to do that for the main story bosses though, they're actually properly designed and not just plopped into an arena without any thought.

[Nyagger]

引用自 zero：

引用自 Dogemon：

yeah why does the local carpenter manufacture and handcraft wooden furniture instead of assembling aluminum tables in an assembly chain

it'd be pretty hard to do woodworking with aluminum now wouldn't it? why would they do that when they could do the easy thing and use wood.

yeah why would people want a handcrafted piece of wooden furniture when you can get the same piece of wooden furniture assembled by a large corporation that does the exact same function and has a 2 year warranty

[aristateles]

引用自 SeeNoWeevil：

引用自 Dogemon：

Almost every one of my friends is using summoning ashes, magic and weapons like the moonveil katana
every boss has one summoned phantom and they've beaten the game 2 weeks after release and moved on back to FFXIV or lost ark.

These people are supposedly the "well adjusted social" people that are miles ahead of "basement dwelling incel gamers" and all I see is people always picking the easiest way to victory to sour their experience in the game

Why did you make the exact same post that's been made 17 times a day for the last 2 weeks?

Because he is bored and stupid.

[insane-juggalo7]

引用自 Dogemon：

Almost every one of my friends is using summoning ashes, magic and weapons like the moonveil katana
every boss has one summoned phantom and they've beaten the game 2 weeks after release and moved on back to FFXIV or lost ark.

These people are supposedly the "well adjusted social" people that are miles ahead of "basement dwelling incel gamers" and all I see is people always picking the easiest way to victory to sour their experience in the game

i like getting money from working a job, but that doesn't mean i'm going to run to work if i have a car

[Hiphoptimus Rhyme]

引用自 Sir Lucient：

Lol all of the comments.

The reality is Elden ring was made to appeal to a larger audience. Unfortunately that means lazy people that are use to playing mind numbing MMO's and auto-aim FPS. It's sad, but this is the future of gaming. Dark souls was designed to be unforgiving and challenging, but Elden ring has thus far been a huge disappointment in that regard. Because, again, it's pretty obvious they're pandering to the Millions of lazy gamer out there. These people don't want a challenge, they don't want to "practice" or put in effort, they want easy wins and instant gains. Such is modern society.

Says the guy with his games privated. I'm going to take a shot on the dark and say you haven't gotten past the first boss.

[Mr.Fuzzynuts]

It’s normal human behavior. Most people don’t want to make a game harder than it has to be and bang their head against the wall for 12 hours on 1 boss. People will always take the path of least resistance and figure out what’s the best way to do something.

That’s why people who b!tch and moan about “meta-slaves” or “flavor of the month” will never win that argument and always act surprised when a new game is released and people have already figured everything out and min-max and beaten it in the first week or two… like yeah… that’s normal human behavior to want to play optimally or pick the best class or weapons. Very few people like to purposely gimp themselves or “go in blind” and even fewer people will activately try to make the game harder or do it competitively like speedrunners or no-hit runners.

If this is the first time people are hearing about this then I hate to break it to ya, but most gamers don’t play a game blind or spoiler-free. Most people in most aspects of their daily lives, including games, will want to do things the easiest and fastest way to achieve the goal including looking up the most min-max optimal builds or routes in a game.. and yes… even cheating. It’s hardwired into our nature to think and act like that.

[Pixel]

I think 'the easy way' is subjective to be honest. You could argue wearing armor, using healing flasks, using bloodhound step, or whatever is easy mode. If someone wants to have fun using ashes there is nothing wrong with that. Not all ashes are a great choice for every boss and some are kind of useless.

In the end this game in pve is about finding fun builds and styles of play you enjoy regardless of how others think of you.

[personality haver]

引用自 Dogemon：

引用自 zero：

ah i see: you walk everywhere then? dont take a car or train?

or do you take the easy way and use cars?

why would people not pick the easy choice if it is there?

because in real life the easier choice is not always the best choice
the easier choice for me is to create an onlyfans and make 150k a day selling nudes

well I bet your dad would be real proud that he raised a wh0re lmao

[Comrade Pickles]

All jokes aside Elden Ring is great because it's as hard as you want it to be. So what if most of the playerbase wanted to put it on easy mode and coast through the game. Why does that bother you so much?

if you like the game you should be happy FS made a sale, so they can continue making games. I mean I agree, playing a strict melee class IS tough and I did enjoy it much more than monveiling/N&F or my sorcery build (I actually started completely over from the fire giant because I respec'd to try out a sorcerer and hated how it felt) but what I DON'T agree with is bashing other people for how they choose to play.

Don't get me wrong, it's perfectly fine of you to look down on them for their choice to play the game essentially on easy mode... but like... again.. who do you think you are that you need to lord that over people? So what? Just move on.

Games are becoming accessible to more people, it's just a good business model. Games can still be hard and appeal to a large audience, you just have to cope with the fact that the game has training wheels inside it to attract the more casual players (again, a GOOD thing! More players = more money = more games!)

[orian34]

引用自 Sir Lucient：

Lol all of the comments.

The reality is Elden ring was made to appeal to a larger audience. Unfortunately that means lazy people that are use to playing mind numbing MMO's and auto-aim FPS. It's sad, but this is the future of gaming. Dark souls was designed to be unforgiving and challenging, but Elden ring has thus far been a huge disappointment in that regard. Because, again, it's pretty obvious they're pandering to the Millions of lazy gamer out there. These people don't want a challenge, they don't want to "practice" or put in effort, they want easy wins and instant gains. Such is modern society.

Malenia and the hero graves still proves Fromsoft hasn't left their sadistic side in the dust.

[Maelos]

Some people game as a way to unwind. They have a job or some other responsibilities and don't have the time to spend 10+ hours/day 'getting gud' or bashing their heads against the wall by playing sub-optimally and just making things hard for no reason.

I know this thinking is foreign to most of the DS community, but maybe this comment will cure your ignorance somewhat.

[Friends with Benedicts]

Jesus christ you care so much as to dictate how your friends enjoy their free times? Do you want to choose which porn they can watch?

[Nonomori]

Im not sure that summoning ashes is an easy way to be honest. Yeah, it does somewhat make your life easier because some summons are tanky enough to drag attention from you so you can take a break/heal yourself up but they are not THAT strong to make any sensible difference. Besides, ashes is an actual gameplay mechanic. NPC and player summons on the other hand yeah, total cheese. But hey, if you summon a friend you pay for that by exposing yourself to invaders x)

[zero]

引用自 Dogemon：

引用自 zero：

it'd be pretty hard to do woodworking with aluminum now wouldn't it? why would they do that when they could do the easy thing and use wood.

yeah why would people want a handcrafted piece of wooden furniture when you can get the same piece of wooden furniture assembled by a large corporation that does the exact same function and has a 2 year warranty

cause its pretty hard to make handcrafted pieces of furnature with a machine now isn't it?

why not just do the easy thing and make it with your hands?

me taking the piss aside: its a game, people like to feel powerful, so why would they not use magic thats powerful? this has been the case in all souls games.

simply put: why would people use weak things if they have stronger choices?

and the answer is: only if they want to, but that is them fufilling a niche, not the expected outcome.

引用自 insane-juggalo7：

引用自 Dogemon：

Almost every one of my friends is using summoning ashes, magic and weapons like the moonveil katana
every boss has one summoned phantom and they've beaten the game 2 weeks after release and moved on back to FFXIV or lost ark.

These people are supposedly the "well adjusted social" people that are miles ahead of "basement dwelling incel gamers" and all I see is people always picking the easiest way to victory to sour their experience in the game

i like getting money from working a job, but that doesn't mean i'm going to run to work if i have a car

boom, simple.

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i dont pay 50 bucks to play as a stranger told me to.