Is Blue Cipher Ring pointless?

[A1 Steaksauce]

I've had it on pretty much since I picked it up (80+ hours in game now) and have been summoned maybe 5-7 times. I know it depends on the area you're in, but it seems like not many people are going around using the White Cipher Ring, let alone Taunters Tongue to bring in more invaders. I can put a summon sign down and get summoned almost instantly, but being summoned as a blue requires a host to actively have the white ring on, and actively already have an invader, who is usually already getting 1v2'd by the time a blue joins in. Why did they even bother putting the blues in when only 4 people can be in a host's game at a time, including the host, and why does it feel as though the multiplayer got a downgrade in ER???

Sure, "for fun" is all well and good, but why not just take the system and improve it rather than make it so there are no covenants and everyone gets rune arcs and finger remedy's which are about as rare as oxygen?

[Mandalorian Deathknight]

i would not pvp in elden ring atm due to the hackers perma killing players

[Thy GoD]

Originally posted by A1 Steaksauce:

I've had it on pretty much since I picked it up (80+ hours in game now) and have been summoned maybe 5-7 times. I know it depends on the area you're in, but it seems like not many people are going around using the White Cipher Ring, let alone Taunters Tongue to bring in more invaders. I can put a summon sign down and get summoned almost instantly, but being summoned as a blue requires a host to actively have the white ring on, and actively already have an invader, who is usually already getting 1v2'd by the time a blue joins in. Why did they even bother putting the blue's in when only 4 people can be in a host's game at a time, including the host, and why does it feel as though the multiplayer got a downgrade in ER???

they likely added it in since they assumed it'd function like in the other souls games (DS3 had a similiar thing with covenants iirc).

but since most of the time when you're invaded, it's usually 1 invader against like 2-3 people, so theres no point in really using the ring if you're already overwhelming the invader. (due to Elden ring's invasion system)

[Esmolol]

Originally posted by Mandalorian Deathknight:

i would not pvp in elden ring atm due to the hackers perma killing players

And I thought the super useful anticheat software that lowers performance is sooo good.

[DragynDance]

The reason the blue cipher ring barely works is because almost everyone is playing through with it active. Every time I've been summoned to co op with a host, every time they get invaded, a blue hunter shows up almost immedietly.

[A1 Steaksauce]

Originally posted by DragynDance:

The reason the blue cipher ring barely works is because almost everyone is playing through with it active. Every time I've been summoned to co op with a host, every time they get invaded, a blue hunter shows up almost immedietly.

That does make sense. So it just makes me wonder... was the intention to ENCOURAGE 1v3 invasions? I guess it can be 2v2 at times, also, but majority of the time, it's the former, and I just wonder what purpose the blue serves other than for a bit of DS nostalgia.