Bloody Slash and Hoarfrost stomp nerf is a complete and utter BS

[artesva]

I am 150+ hours in the game, and I had only 2 weapon arts there which were worth using - Hoarfrost stomp and Bloody Slash.

They look cool, they feel great and satisfying to use, they actually do decent damage.
Ot at least they DID, to be more precise. Now they are unplayable.

So now I have 0 (zero) interesting arts to use, and I have about 40 of those overall.
But others are just garbage.
Maybe I can BUFF myself a little bit of damage before a boss fight, wow, or have a BUTT JUMP - how exciting

But you buffed brain-dead sorcery, instead of caring for melee playstyle.

I have never played online and never will I, so why do I have to suffer from a boring gameplay from now on because of your griefers and ♥♥♥♥?
This is a solo game, and you took the fun out of it

Thanks From, finally changing my rewiew to ''not recommend''

UPD
I guess i have to add this, because obviously they provided internet access to mental institution patients, who spam brainless ''git gud'' here:
I have zero problems with the game's difficlty, it's one of the easiest games in the genre I ever played, with or withour weapon arts.
Cool arts just made long and frankly pretty dull game with countless reusable bosses and enemies fun to play,
And nerfs by itself are fine, but they killed the arts completely

[Adam]

Not used hoarfrost but bloody slash absolutely needed to be nerfed. Although I did enjoy messing about with it. But when one weapon is +8 and can out damage in one move a +15 weapon full combo string or a critical with talismans to buff these you know something is wrong.

[Fang]

The sorceries they buffed weren't that strong to begin with. You mentioned two of the most powerful abilities. And yeah, I'm sure they'll rebalance things even further.

But you can't please everybody.

[Kalvix]

Цитата допису Freak4Leeks:

Thats the price you pay for PvP in a PvE game, that is why i would be totally fine if some day they just no longer include multiplayer.

That being said there are already "unbalancer" mods that try to make everything kinda broken like spells, ashes of war etc etc if that is your thing.

I'd rather they some day don't include single player, make it so it's servers we are all on at the same time with very little PvE, sounds like a better direction.

[rebb]

The "nerf everything that attacks my gamer pride" vocal minority is unfortunately very active for this game. 99% of people probably were fine with the balance, but said nothing.

Of course FromSoft only saw the loud ones.

[Name]

Come on, hoarfrost stomp was ridiculous with a leveled up weapon. Its all I was using it was too good there was no reason to use anything else unless you wanted to gimp yourself lol.

[artesva]

Цитата допису NightUndead:

Цитата допису artesva:

Most fun is how people react to Frost Stomp, while it was nothing compared to a Bloody Slash or Katana Draw.
Sure, take Frost away, but making also Bloody Slah unusable - that's specificly fun.

And I lke how people talkig about ''there are a lot of cool arts', but are not naming even one of those, and I comletely understand why - there are not. because I have my collectionin front of me, and I tried all of those

This is nothing but an excuse, but I'll bite for now.

I'd argue, Phantom Slash, Thunderbolt, Sacred Blade, Sacred Ring of Light and Ice Spear are interesting ashes of war that provides you with readily available mid-range options for otherwise close quarter weapons.

All of those are for polearms, and I play with a greatsword.
Sacred is just a buff

[Exogenous]

Hoarfrost was really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ broken dude I am not sure if that or the deathblight burning man ♥♥♥♥ was worse. Though I heard that the deathblight ♥♥♥♥ only works in PvP so it is likely the hoarfrost XD

[artesva]

Цитата допису Lucifer_:

Цитата допису artesva:

Most fun is how people react to Frost Stomp, while it was nothing compared to a Bloody Slash or Katana Draw.
Sure, take Frost away, but making also Bloody Slah unusable - that's specificly fun.

And I lke how people talkig about ''there are a lot of cool arts', but are not naming even one of those, and I comletely understand why - there are not. because I have my collectionin front of me, and I tried all of those

bloodhound's finesse, taker's flame, unsheathe, queen's black flame, night and flame, rivers of blood

All of rhose are unique skills of specific weapons, so not valid point

So we have still named ZERO cool and interesting arts to play with.
Keep on waiting

[NightUndead]

Цитата допису artesva:

Цитата допису NightUndead:

This is nothing but an excuse, but I'll bite for now.

I'd argue, Phantom Slash, Thunderbolt, Sacred Blade, Sacred Ring of Light and Ice Spear are interesting ashes of war that provides you with readily available mid-range options for otherwise close quarter weapons.

All of those are for polearms, and I play with a greatsword.
Sacred is just a buff

Sacred Blade most certainly shot out a projectile, maybe you didn't test it? Or maybe its different for weapon classes.

My point was, if I could so easily find that many options JUST for polearms/spears, maybe, just maybe, there's a few options out there?

[Lucifer_]

Цитата допису artesva:

Цитата допису Lucifer_:

bloodhound's finesse, taker's flame, unsheathe, queen's black flame, night and flame, rivers of blood

All of rhose are unique skills of specific weapons, so not valid point

So we have still named ZERO cool and interesting arts to play with.
Keep on waiting

Alright I kinda see what you're saying. The unique weapon arts are the only good ones really. And I don't know about bloody slash but hoarfrost stomp was so utterly and completely broken that it had to be nerfed. Now they're in line with other ashes of war, kinda meh. Thankfully there are A LOT of good unique weapon arts still left to play with.

[Freak4Leeks]

Цитата допису Timbermaw:

Bro you blind? Hoarfrost was being used in pve to pwn every single boss

i am very aware, but it is PvE so it doesn't matter.

Цитата допису Tao314zdin:

True for some things, but the stomp was broken in PVE not PVP, pretty sure they nerfed it because it could be spammed to kill most of the non-boss and a lot of boss encounters by pressing 1 button.

it was in PvP aswell you could stomp the ♥♥♥♥ out of new players. as for PvE read my other statement.

broken builds are fun, just not when there is PvP involved.

Цитата допису Kalvix:

I'd rather they some day don't include single player, make it so it's servers we are all on at the same time with very little PvE, sounds like a better direction.

how do you propose that, do we have all the weapons from the start? do we have to buy them with in game currency from winning PvP matches? yeah that would kill the fanbase real fast.

[Amokeus Rotasch]

This is a classic case of "Git Gud", my man.

[EmperorVolo]

Цитата допису artesva:

I am 150+ hours in the game, and I had only 2 weapon arts there which were worth using - Hoarfrost stomp and Bloody Slash.

They look cool, they feel great and satisfying to use, they actually do decent damage.
Ot at least they DID, to be more precise. Now they are unplayable.

So now I have 0 (zero) interesting arts to use, and I have about 40 of those overall.
But others are just garbage.
Maybe I can BUFF myself a little bit of damage before a boss fight, wow, or have a BUTT JUMP - how exciting

But you buffed brain-dead sorcery, instead of caring for melee playstyle.

I have never played online and never will I, so why do I have to suffer from a boring gameplay from now on because of your griefers and ♥♥♥♥?
This is a solo game, and you took the fun out of it

Thanks From, finally changing my rewiew to ''not recommend''

It was a freaking exploit, if you can't play the game without cheating that is a serious personal problem. Adapt thats what these games are all about.

[LCF]

delete the game then

[Mr.Fuzzynuts]

just did a couple pvp matches and bloody slash is just as OP if not more OP as it was before. it takes a massive chunk of peoples health and even 2 shotted a guy with it. granted i have most of the gear needed to make it strong like blood talisman and white mask but my katanas are only +13. i only lost 1 time to a moonveil user. so honestly it feels like bloody slash is up there with moonveil now. it takes a little bit more health from you when you use it but it feels like it does a bit more damage too at the same time. i'm happy with it.