Hoarfrost Stomp to OP it's broken! FromSoftware fix it!

[VankiP]

Low FP cost, quick cast, insane damage, goes through obstacles and no specs needed unlike magic https://youtu.be/ZPHNApmx61U Balance it!

[Hekk]

Yeah well, it kinda is too strong, almost as strong as spamming moonveil's or night and flame's weapon art

[Hekk]

Originally posted by sumdumgoy:

If you really think this is broken in PVE go power stance 2 Reduvia and literally shred all bosses with or without the skill which also kills bosses even faster than this stomp. Also go check out the current number 1 and number 2 PVP weapons the Moonveil (#2) and the most broken PVP thing of all time the Eclipse Shotel which can death curse anyone in about 2 seconds flat or less. Just because you have just seen this for the first time ever and it seems strong dose not mean it is broken get to NG+4 or later and see that it is not even top 5, top 10 maybe but there are way faster ways to kill in both PVE and PVP.

I mean, Eclipse Shotel is actually only "Top 1" due to exploit with Fire's Sin.

[Ghostorias]

Originally posted by sumdumgoy:

If you really think this is broken in PVE go power stance 2 Reduvia and literally shred all bosses with or without the skill which also kills bosses even faster than this stomp. Also go check out the current number 1 and number 2 PVP weapons the Moonveil (#2) and the most broken PVP thing of all time the Eclipse Shotel which can death curse anyone in about 2 seconds flat or less. Just because you have just seen this for the first time ever and it seems strong dose not mean it is broken get to NG+4 or later and see that it is not even top 5, top 10 maybe but there are way faster ways to kill in both PVE and PVP.

you realise the deathblight thing is an exploit right ? dumbass

[RadioMars]

I swear, whenever you guys make a post about how some thing is op, it's a different thing each ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time

[sumdumgoy]

Originally posted by Ghostorias:

you realise the deathblight thing is an exploit right ? dumbass

Wow you really think you can call anyone a dumbass when you are talking on a post about things that are broken? you must be the literal dumbest person on this forum if not on steam. Yes I know it is an exploit stupid that is why I said it is the most broken thing of all time. Go read a book or something and try to attempt to grow more brain cells to keep that half a one you got company.

[Ghostorias]

Originally posted by RadioMars:

I swear, whenever you guys make a post about how some thing is op, it's a different thing each ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time

Attacking stuff is OP please nerf

[Is This Your Card? 69]

Originally posted by amathy oniichan uwu:

Originally posted by Not Zane:

You're allowed to discuss things without it being whining? Are you blind? Have you seen these threads? LMAO bro pls

Did I create all of these threads? You can't say I'm whining because of how other people make their threads you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ moron.

You act like nothing in this game is strong except those things named above LMAO

Where did I say those are the only strong things in the game? Don't attempt to strawman or gaslight me, it won't work.

Does it take a lot of stamina / FP to hit someone with an unga bunga build, sorceries or incantations? ♥♥♥♥ no.

Does every melee, sorcery, or incantation do the same amount of damage with a comparatively low stamina or FP cost? Why, then, does Comet do significantly less damage than Hoarfrost while costing nearly 4 times as much FP?

If you're too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ignorant to see that and just tunnel vision on these meta weapons or arts, then maybe git gud, dodge attacks and you'll prob be less ♥♥♥♥♥♥ about everything oneshotting you, come back when you got gud or aren't on your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ period.

I'm better than you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You're the one that is getting hyper offended by people pointing out that something is clearly overtuned.

Did I say you created all these threads? I think the major point flew right by, I guess you really must be blind. You should have those eyes checked LMAO

Not the point now is it? Your idea of balancing these by increasing FP cost has virtually no effect as people will still continue to use it LMAO
Like I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ said again, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dodge. You can keep talking ♥♥♥♥ about how its dumb logic, but why is it dumb when the weapons / arts you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easy to dodge or get past? If its easy to dodge, and you say you're good, then what's the problem? Tell me ;)

You didn't, but you surely are VERY focused on these ''OP'' weapons and arts LMAO.
''These weapons and arts are so strong Q.Q they surely will be fixed'' is literally what you have been whining the entire time about.

I am not getting offended, I am getting irritated by these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ people whining about these weapons / arts like its gonna ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ magically disappear or somehow make FS release the patch faster with each QQ thread.
They are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 24/7 rather than use that time to actually learn on how to deal with it, you included.

What's next?
''Enemies are too op cause they have infinite FP QQ''

If you truly were not bothered by it, you would've skipped past my comment with ease. Yet. Here. You. Are. Aren't you? ;)

[Helbera]

Scrub take, git gud/stop using it. Stop crying for 'balance' outside of truly cancerous stuff(deathbed dress + eclipse shotel abuse).

[Draconis]

Just roll out of it until they run out of FP.

[Ghostorias]

Originally posted by sumdumgoy:

Originally posted by Ghostorias:

you realise the deathblight thing is an exploit right ? dumbass

Wow you really think you can call anyone a dumbass when you are talking on a post about things that are broken? you must be the literal dumbest person on this forum if not on steam. Yes I know it is an exploit stupid that is why I said it is the most broken thing of all time. Go read a book or something and try to attempt to grow more brain cells to keep that half a one you got company.

I'm not the braindead moron who runs around using an exploit which you most likely use to win in fights also it seems you don't even own the game why are you here?

[Hans Meiser]

I've PvPed pretty much non stop since the game came out and I don't feel like Hoarfrost Stomp is a big problem. You have alot of time to get out of it, you can literally run around it, if you have the space, you can even run through it, which alot of people don't expect at all.

In my 150ish hours since the game came out, I can count the number of times I've been actually hit by this on one hand. It hurts when you do get hit, but it's really not as good in pvp as people make it out to be.

PVE is a different story, but I don't really care that much about any kind of PVE balance tbh.

[Ghostorias]

Originally posted by Hans Meiser:

I've PvPed pretty much non stop since the game came out and I don't feel like Hoarfrost Stomp is a big problem. You have alot of time to get out of it, you can literally run around it, if you have the space, you can even run through it, which alot of people don't expect at all.

In my 150ish hours since the game came out, I can count the number of times I've been actually hit by this on one hand. It hurts when you do get hit, but it's really not as good in pvp as people make it out to be.

PVE is a different story, but I don't really care that much about any kind of PVE balance tbh.

You can also jump when it happens too that also shocks the living hell outta people using it

[Nerevar]

imagine beeing tc and just now realizeing this. like this is news from 2 weeks ago.

yes its OP. its one of the most broken ashes of war currently. and yes its also number 1 on the long list of "♥♥♥♥ that will get hit hard with the nerfbat" so if youre relying on it currently prepare to start crying soon.

there is other stuff tough like bloodhound step or weebveil. and status buildup and proc dmg. all of that will get toned down big time.

so yeah. enjoy the OP stuff while you can. the game wont stay like this.

[Light]

Its also buggy if you use it on certain terrains. Like there's a lot of places you can't use it because the graphics won't properly proc with the skill and if that happens you can forget the 2nd hit of the ability hitting your enemies. If you don't see the cone it only hits them with the weak first strike of the stomp. Honestly it would be a pretty stupid skill to use in pvp because of the glitchy nature of the skill basically making it a risky move that wastes FP when it doesn't fire off right.

Uhm the The boss in Castle Sol, Starscourge Radahn and countless other locations are full of areas where the skill will never fire off correctly. Even the best farming spot in the game has a spot to demonstrate the hoarfrost glitching. Basically go down from the grace to the turn and you have the one enemy on your right hunching down. If you looked left you'd have four red versions of those enemies patrolling up and down the hill there. Anyways just walk up towards that lone enemy and try using hoarfrost. It won't fire off right. You'll only deal the initial stomp damage. It is a great farming skill because it happens to work at that location mostly without a hitch. I suspect the cone is going deep underground which is why it doesn't hit them with the 2nd hit where the main damage comes. To be fair, it doesn't really get potent until you really invest in the weapon and go high intelligence. It would kinda suck if you were faith or arcane based.

[amathy]

Did I say you created all these threads? I think the major point flew right by, I guess you really must be blind. You should have those eyes checked LMAO

Then what is the point of referencing the threads to say that I'm whining? I'm not the one that created the threads, and I'm not the one making every post in the threads. That has literally no relevance to me. You can't say I'm whining and point at what other people are saying and then act like you didn't say I was whining.

Not the point now is it? Your idea of balancing these by increasing FP cost has virtually no effect as people will still continue to use it LMAO

...And they wouldn't be able to spam it as much before needing to drink. There is a reason people aren't spamming comet, as it's horribly inefficient. Seriously, it does not take that much critical thinking to understand.

Like I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ said again, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dodge. You can keep talking ♥♥♥♥ about how its dumb logic, but why is it dumb when the weapons / arts you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easy to dodge or get past?

I have already explained why this is dumb logic. Make everything do 5 million damage and cost no FP or stamina because you can technically dodge them.

You didn't, but you surely are VERY focused on these ''OP'' weapons and arts LMAO.

...What does this even mean? I've posted a couple times about something being overtuned for what it does, so I'm "VERY focused" on them?

''These weapons and arts are so strong Q.Q they surely will be fixed'' is literally what you have been whining the entire time about.

Now you're saying I'm whining again. Where?

I am not getting offended

Yes you are, and I have proof, thanks to you:

If you truly were not bothered by it, you would've skipped past my comment with ease. Yet. Here. You. Are. Aren't you? ;)

If you truly were not offended by it, you would've skipped past my comment and these threads with ease. Yet. Here. You. Are. Aren't you? ;)
What an epic self-own.
Unless you say something that actually requires more than 5 brain cells and hasn't already been debunked, I think I'm done wasting time with an infant.