Mouse/Keyboard is inferior to Controller

[Barik]

The main reason is because of movement. WASD has 8 directions you can move but Control Stick has 360 degree movement.

I noticed this when I played on Xbox I have greater degree of control when dodging and moving around enemies, I could roll/move in what feels like 16 angles, where PC has only 8.

[orson0402]

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[Cooperal]

I've been moving my thumbstick only in 8 directions this whole time like a damn idiot.

[Barik]

I know it might be obvious to some, but the keyboard limitations actually make it the inferior way to play, on a "elite" play perspective.

When I searched Keyboard vs Controller I read alot of post saying that if you get used to playing on a keyboard it is the better way to play. But it is not true.

Circling around enemies on a controller has more precision. For example, the first phase of Crucible Knight, when on a controller you can easily get him to second phase circling around him which evades most of his attacks and lets you get in alot of easy attacks

But with Keyboard you can't circle around him the same way.

Dodge rolling behind enemies also become more limited as you only have 8 directions of movement. Some plays like dodge rolling behind an enemy to backstab requires more time to execute, as you would have to position yourself in the perfect spot.

Besides that, the controls were made for controllers. Special attack on keyboard requires you to hold shift and left click. Whereas on controller it is only a single button.

There are probably more examples, but I just wanted to bring the topic up because there is alot of misinformation about the topic.

[Nifty]

Originally posted by Barik:

The main reason is because of movement. WASD has 8 directions you can move but Control Stick has 360 degree movement.

I noticed this when I played on Xbox I have greater degree of control when dodging and moving around enemies, I could roll/move in what feels like 16 angles, where PC has only 8.

You can achieve the same thing by using the mouse for precise camera angles in where you want to move?

[Barik]

You can achieve the same thing by using the mouse for precise camera angles in where you want to move?

If you are not locked on to the enemy you can use the camera but than what's the point of locking on?

[hbyw618]

I think OP told the truth, get a controller for better experience.

[GrandTickler]

yep for these type of games i think its pretty much a fact. all third person action games that dont require precise aiming are like this.

[BigDreamer]

beat Malenia on mouse + k, what is wrong with me?

[hbyw618]

Originally posted by BigDreamer:

beat Malenia on mouse + k, what is wrong with me?

Nothing wrong but you feel relax when using controller and you will know it's more natural.

It's not a game dedicated for KB/M

[Tao314zdin]

Nah, depends.

Office kbm set is definitely not too good.

However with gaming set it is better on kbm.

You lose a bit on the BS fishing, but that is not a big thing in ER (was more impactfull in DS3, but even there all you need is 22.5 degrees camera rotation to roll in any arbitrary direction with kbm).

But you gain on the custom button mapping, camera controls and duplication of buttons for faster combos and swaps.

Originally posted by Barik:

Besides that, the controls were made for controllers. Special attack on keyboard requires you to hold shift and left click.

Who plays like that? You sure you really tried kbm at all?

[Nifty]

Originally posted by hbyw618:

Originally posted by BigDreamer:

beat Malenia on mouse + k, what is wrong with me?

Nothing wrong but you feel relax when using controller and you will know it's more natural.

It's not a game dedicated for KB/M

I've played with both kb&m and controller, kb&m felt nicer to me, it's all up to personal preference

Originally posted by Barik:

You can achieve the same thing by using the mouse for precise camera angles in where you want to move?

If you are not locked on to the enemy you can use the camera but than what's the point of locking on?

You don't exactly need to do 360 movements with how lock on works though?

[Barik]

Even if you beat the entire game with MKB you are limiting your options in combat because controller has more than 8 movements. Everything else can be debated like having to press 2 buttons for special etc.

[⭕TheSodaman]

Specifically on Elden Ring, the KBM was an after thought that doesn't get to take advantage of its capabilities. So for this game, I can see why controller would be an overall better experience for players that have equal access and proficiency to both.

KBM designs would be things like:
* being able to assign individual keys to things like... two-handing an armament, quick pouch items / item slots / spells (1...0)
* being able to assign mice that have more than 3 buttons

And the KBM not being just a controller emulator.

[hbyw618]

Originally posted by Nifty:

Originally posted by hbyw618:

Nothing wrong but you feel relax when using controller and you will know it's more natural.

It's not a game dedicated for KB/M

I've played with both kb&m and controller, kb&m felt nicer to me, it's all up to personal preference

Originally posted by Barik:

If you are not locked on to the enemy you can use the camera but than what's the point of locking on?

You don't exactly need to do 360 movements with how lock on works though?

Yep, I just more familar with controllers, I just enjoy the time lay in sofa.

BTW, controller have much more sensors than KB/M.