The Dragon incantations should be pure arcane and have nothing to do with faith

[Drumadin]

Faith builds already got the best end of any deal this game offers, they don't need the extra AOE when they already got the best spells in the game already.

[Cracked Cup]

Everything in Elden Ring has to do with Faith for some reason. Every other weapon I find arbitrarily requires some Faith even if it only has a D scaling when max leveled. Almost every boss drop/soul is tied to Faith. Death magic and Pyromancy sorceries both require Faith. On the Incantation side of things, it is died to beasts, dragon, clergymen, evil/necromancers/skeletons, and everything else From Software could think of. It can lead to a very thin statspread if you want to incorporate a bunch of different things. There isn't even a staff that can cast incantations despite there being multiple spells and Int weapons that require Faith.

[trash]

is there a way for faith spells to not do trash damage that i'm not familiar with because i found them pretty underwhelming in pve outside of like early game pyromancy

[Drumadin]

Originally posted by trash:

is there a way for faith spells to not do trash damage that i'm not familiar with because i found them pretty underwhelming in pve outside of like early game pyromancy

Well you got the madness status effect, the lightning spears and basicly all lightning related incantations and weapon arts deals alot of damage.

You got that fun one that calls lightning down directly ontop of you, Which is spamable as both incantation and ashes of war.

There is this orange spear, which has a windup similar to the Loretta bow sorcery, but when it's thrown it's one of if not the fastest projectile ingame with oneshot capabilities.

Lightning spears also has an extremely long range, while the majority of sorceries fades away after a few feet.

Faith weapons are better than int weapons for example. Hell, the Elden Ring moonlight greatsword is the worst version of any other souls game it has been in for many reasons.

While a certain spear adds the madness status effect on you in a few pokes.