Best ways to get bleed burst?

[Widgey]

I'm currently trying to get a good PvE Bleed/Parry build going, and so far I haven't had any luck, I'm currently lvl 39 and just beat Godric and so far any bleed weapons I try to get pumped only give me burst within 4-5 or even 6 hits.

I'm currently running around with Bloodhound Fang and Hookclaws with a buckler and heater shield at the moment which has been working but feels like a chore and doesn't have that smooth feel you get when all your stat's are working well together.

I was recommended to go with a quality 40/40 build and to add an Ash to a str weapon that makes it's bleed, but I haven't found such an ash nor a good str weapon that gels well with me at I can wield yet.

I've also heard that apparently Arc is useless beyond 14 as it only helps you get burst in one extra hit, so some having recommended just ignoring the stat.

I guess my questions is what stats should I be pumping while I work on this build, and what weapons would you recommend? Also I'm still not fully understanding the Ashes system so maybe some tips there would be appreciated as well. Thanks in advance for any help.

[Enderspoons]

If you haven't got it already, I'd recommend taking a detour to Caelid to find the Bloodflame Blade incantation. This spell buffs up your weapon with bleed buildup, and on top of that lingers around building up more bleed after every hit. This alone can be enough to make bosses weak to bleed (such as a certain large someone on a tiny horse) procure a bleed effect in just 2-3 hits if you stack it on top of a weapon that already has bleed built into it.

For probabably-not-all-that-obvious reasons, you can't buff up with Bloodflame Blade on a weapon that already has an elemental affinity given to it by an Ash of War, such as Blood or Cold or Fire or Poison or the like.

[Hiphoptimus Rhyme]

Originally posted by Enderspoons:

If you haven't got it already, I'd recommend taking a detour to Caelid to find the Bloodflame Blade incantation. This spell buffs up your weapon with bleed buildup, and on top of that lingers around building up more bleed after every hit. This alone can be enough to make bosses weak to bleed (such as a certain large someone on a tiny horse) procure a bleed effect in just 2-3 hits if you stack it on top of a weapon that already has bleed built into it.

For probabably-not-all-that-obvious reasons, you can't buff up with Bloodflame Blade on a weapon that already has an elemental affinity given to it by an Ash of War, such as Blood or Cold or Fire or Poison or the like.

Does blood flame blade stack with katana's weapon arts? River of blood or Bloody Slash for example.

[Nerevar]

dont start relying on broken stuff currently. bleed is very high up on the list for the first nerfbat. it procs WAY too fast currently.

[Enderspoons]

Originally posted by Hiphoptimus Rhyme:

Does blood flame blade stack with katanas/ weapon arts?

If you're asking about Rivers of Blood, I don't know. My gut tells me it shouldn't be able to since Rivers of Blood is a unique weapon with a unique Ash of War, but if Elden Ring has shown me anything, it's that trying to trust your instinct only results in getting roll-caught by a basic three-hit combo and then getting two-tapped.

[spoiled milk]

currently using a bleed godskin peeler with seppuku as the weapon art, applies bleed every 2-3 hits in pvp so far

[Red Phantom]

Craft bloodgrease, it adds a significant amount of bleed damage to a weapon and you can use it on Bloodhound's Fang.

[Hiphoptimus Rhyme]

Originally posted by Enderspoons:

Originally posted by Hiphoptimus Rhyme:

Does blood flame blade stack with katanas/ weapon arts?

If you're asking about Rivers of Blood, I don't know. My gut tells me it shouldn't be able to since Rivers of Blood is a unique weapon with a unique Ash of War, but if Elden Ring has shown me anything, it's that trying to trust your instinct only results in getting roll-caught by a basic three-hit combo and then getting two-tapped.

Aye, I realized it wasn't clear so I clarified with an edit. I've been trying to make a bleed build work but it feels like I'm doing something wrong- not seeing the results I'm looking for. I might try to find out tomorrow if it can stack.

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

dont start relying on broken stuff currently. bleed is very high up on the list for the first nerfbat. it procs WAY too fast currently.

*wretched soldier triggers bleed in two hits, three tops with his saw halberd and shreds my health bar*

I know, right? I need SEVERAL hits to trigger a bleed when I use that weapon-oh wait, are you one of those people who only gets made at players caused statuses while ignoring how much weaker ours are compared to even fodder?

I mean sure, there are some pure bananas sources of effects you can get. But throwing an entire status category under the bus as "EZ mode for the player" is just amazingly naive.

the real reason to not rely too much on bleed (for PvE, as the op is saying) is how coddled the PVE enemies are, even ignoring the enemies outright immune to it. But certainly a nice bonus to have if you happen to like a weapon category and moveset anyways.

For example, bleed is rarely a deciding factor when I dust off the morning star over over my knight greatsword, large club, big boat anchor (it makes me laugh) or pike. Just the fact it is faster and has less recovery time for when you need to deal with enemy spam and beefwall poise.

If bleed (and stagger, etc) was globally busted, then walking into the bell hunters with wild strikes and bleed grease on my big boat anchor would have sleptwalked through him instead of him basically laughing at it. But noooo, it was smaller faster that won the day even when I triggered bleed like, probably once on him the times I killed him with a morning star.

[Widgey]

Originally posted by Red Phantom:

Craft bloodgrease, it adds a significant amount of bleed damage to a weapon and you can use it on Bloodhound's Fang.

You know which cookbook I needa go for in order to craft it?

[Widgey]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

dont start relying on broken stuff currently. bleed is very high up on the list for the first nerfbat. it procs WAY too fast currently.

I'm not planning on doing much if any PvP, plus I enjoy doing bleed builds on my first play-through.

[[sic!]]

Originally posted by Widgey:

Originally posted by Red Phantom:

Craft bloodgrease, it adds a significant amount of bleed damage to a weapon and you can use it on Bloodhound's Fang.

You know which cookbook I needa go for in order to craft it?

The Bloodgrease is found in Fort Haight in the southeast corner of Mistwood.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Widgey:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

dont start relying on broken stuff currently. bleed is very high up on the list for the first nerfbat. it procs WAY too fast currently.

I'm not planning on doing much if any PvP, plus I enjoy doing bleed builds on my first play-through.

They didn't give you a proper reply. Bleed is mostly fine and balanced. What is not balanced is a very specific extremely optimized setup that causes every single hit to bleed. It isn't something people are going to normally stumble across in their first playthrough, either. It is why you see people asking to be dropped a second Uchigatana.