invaders are so leveled up compared to hosts and their summons, how is this thing balanced?

[Charles Vane]

im level 50 and have +7 katana, but im pretty sure guys that invade at least 75-80 playing with +10 12 weapons and this is some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ my r1 hit deals literally 1/8 to his hp bar while he can kill me with 3 4 r1 hits, i was playing as a summon against an invader he was playing dual blood dagger thing he one shotted me with his weapon art, i was playing with full hp, i mean this is not the pvp i was expecting, they can invade open field boss fights and get no damage from boss aoe attacks it feels elden ring favors invaders on every possible aspect, im pretty sure in dark souls 3 invasion level gap was more limited this feels like you can invade people up to +50 level it doesnt matter when you are 150 and 200 invades you but it matters a lot when you are 50 and invaded by 100

[eroo]

You can literally 3v1 what the ♥♥♥♥ are you on about lol

[Charles Vane]

nahh it doesnt matter its so easy 3v1 on elden ring as an invader in dark souls 3 everything was more balanced this is some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ my 2 dagger riposte into parry wont even kill the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ invader how the ♥♥♥♥ is this balanced its beyond me

[アゼム]

You're full of crap considering it's impossible to invade outside of your level/weapon range. It literally prevents that.
Git gud

[Dootslayer]

Invaders can only invade upwards hosts can summon overleveled friends with passwords.

[Bobloblaw]

You probably don't have enough HP

Did my invasions for the Varre questline today. One game I oneshotted one guy and 95% the other with one unsheathe. In the game before that I hit a dude with unsheathe and it only did like 30% because he had proper armor and high vigor.

He 3 shotted me though lol

[PSY]

♥♥♥♥ off with this "elden ring favors invaders"
Everything they can do, you as a host or phantom can do BETTER. Invaders are never more than a few levels higher than the host and almost always several levels lower than the host. Does your weapon do ♥♥♥♥ damage? Then upgrade it. Do you do ♥♥♥♥ damage? Make a better build ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Invader killing you in 3 shots with his gay ass moonveil/night and flame/bleed/rot/frenzy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥? Do it back.

You as the host have all the things invaders can do plus great runes, plus phantoms. Now, don't get me wrong, I think the PVP here sucks ass because everything is a 1 to 3 shot build. It's literally not fun at all. But don't sit here and ♥♥♥♥♥ about something you have the ability to stop.

[Charles Vane]

i have 25 vigor on level 50 you cant have it more, nah level gap is much more in elden ring go watch youtubers as they invade one spinning slash kill ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ summons they are just too overleveled and game let them invade low levels

[Veritas]

invaders cannot invade hosts that have a lower weapon upgrade tier number than theirs, for starters. that's been implemented since ds3 and returned for dark souls remaster, and elden ring has it

Secondly the matchmaking for invasions is extremely upwards biased, you cannot invade someone more than 5 levels below you, ever

[アゼム]

Originally posted by Charles Vane:

i have 25 vigor on level 50 you cant have it more, nah level gap is much more in elden ring go watch youtubers as they invade one spinning slash kill ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ summons they are just too overleveled and game let them invade low levels

Sounds like you just suck

[DayLight1943]

25 vig is not even close to enough for SL50 if you are going to be doing pvp. ppl can only invade around +/- 10 rune levels and +/- 2 standard weapon levels.

things do ALOT of damage in this game and you need to focus more on leveling vigor than previous titles. goal for end game vigor is now 60, not 40. everyone needs more vigor than you had in ds3.

also field bosses can 100% hit invaders. if they didnt take damage they were out of range or used roll/quickstep. might have looked like they should have been hit due to latency when really they were out of range, but bosses can 100% hit invaders.

[Red Phantom]

Literally impossible

[Loot]

My God, these posts.
"Hosts are way higher level than me..."
"Summons are all 100 levels higher than me........."
"Invaders are all way higher level than me.........."

As a host, you can summon and or be invaded by someone up to 10 levels above or 10 levels below you. Their weapons can be within 2 levels of yours. The only way to summon someone that is level 100 as a level 30 is by using a password, but they get scaled down. End of story.

[Butcher]

It is exactly other way around. Since invader level is based around host, host can summon overleveled phantoms via password. I counted cooper level based on his equipment and he was at least 30 levels above me based on equip load, faith and weapon requirements.

[LongParsnip]

Yeah nah, it is the other way around.

[Him]

Get gud scrub