Man, soft banning people for pvp-disconnects is seriously a problem and it frustrates me.

[This Mongrel Is Fissionable]

So I've been having a great week playing through this game in coop with my friends, despite a lot of performance and connectivity issues, which tend to sometimes make us crash, even during invasions.

But now, after an invasion which I wasn't even the host of, I have been soft banned and can't play with my friends anymore. Not even the private password thing anymore. I've read that I have to play 10 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hours alone just to join my friends again - it's ridiculous.

I understand that people quitting the game during the invasion might be annoying for invaders, and that it's very hard from Fromsoftwares perspective to differentiate between a player who quits on purpose and one who has connectivity or performance issues. But if you can't differentiate between the two, then you shouldn't implement a system which punishes both - it just shouldn't be a thing. Especially when it's so likely to hit innocent players with all these performance and connection issues this game has. A player who just loses connection sometimes due to circumstances they cannot control should never have to deal with such harsh consequences.

At the very least, they should still leave the private password coop play available during a soft ban. I don't get why I am not allowed to keep enjoying this game with my friends.

[Regufyz]

the thing that makes this bad is that the game isnt running well enough to ensure that crashes wont happen which leds to undeserved bans bc of crashes

[ReBootXD]

It’s intentional, so change will not come

[Codester]

Originally posted by Regufyz:

the thing that makes this bad is that the game isnt running well enough to ensure that crashes wont happen which leds to undeserved bans bc of crashes

So you just.. re phrased exactly what OP said but in less words? lol.

[Butcher]

Originally posted by Shadow of the Mountain:

A player who just loses connection sometimes due to circumstances they cannot control should never have to deal with such harsh consequences.

How much is "sometimes"? Out of 70 hours I had only 2 "crashes"(more like endless loading screen), both of which happened during connection to coop.

[Sifer2]

You make it sound like you disconnected one time, and got banned. When there are plenty of posts on the board by people bragging they disconnect every time they get invaded. You don't get banned over a single disconnect. But if you keep doing it you will. And it wont change it's been this way in all the Souls games. Invasion is part of the game. If your so against it just let an enemy kill you when you see the invasion warning.

[XTAKK]

I hear ya, the game is working near perfect for a singleplayer PvE experience but COOP and PvP is so unstable and broken if that is what you enjoy it really takes away a lot of the fun. Hopefully they look at these issues and address them over the coming months.

I have constant connection issues anytime I do coop or invasions, and while I am not crashing out of the game its damn near impossible to stay in coop or invasion longer than a minute before being kicked out from a connection issue.

[Regufyz]

Originally posted by Sifer2:

You make it sound like you disconnected one time, and got banned. When there are plenty of posts on the board by people bragging they disconnect every time they get invaded. You don't get banned over a single disconnect. But if you keep doing it you will. And it wont change it's been this way in all the Souls games. Invasion is part of the game. If your so against it just let an enemy kill you when you see the invasion warning.

the problem arent the invasions, its the game randomly crashing during one

[DerpyPannycake]

Been getting tons of disconnects recently aswell and I cant even summon my friend anymore such a pain tbh

[dustin1280]

Originally posted by dustin1280:

I have invaded well over 70 times and been disconnected at least half of them.
My game has also crashed 10 times now (after 100 hours)

Not banned...

I am not sure WHAT things they have in place, but a big part of me thinks people complaining about being softbanned were alt+f4ing invaders...

[This Mongrel Is Fissionable]

Originally posted by Sifer2:

You make it sound like you disconnected one time, and got banned. When there are plenty of posts on the board by people bragging they disconnect every time they get invaded. You don't get banned over a single disconnect. But if you keep doing it you will. And it wont change it's been this way in all the Souls games. Invasion is part of the game. If your so against it just let an enemy kill you when you see the invasion warning.

The issue is that it appearently counts disconnects during any coop sessions, because it didn't happen to me that often during an active invasion and most of the time I wasn't even the host.

[3borg]

Originally posted by Butcher:

Originally posted by Shadow of the Mountain:

A player who just loses connection sometimes due to circumstances they cannot control should never have to deal with such harsh consequences.

How much is "sometimes"? Out of 70 hours I had only 2 "crashes"(more like endless loading screen), both of which happened during connection to coop.

I've had around 4 in a day on my rig.

[This Mongrel Is Fissionable]

I've had about 10 crashes during coop in the past 2-3 days.

[DayLight1943]

the problem is that fromsofts servers are not functioning properly for the amt of players playing the game right now so lots of people are getting disconnected thru no fault of their own. i have a ton of ds3 pvp experience and its pretty easy to tell the difference most of the time.

fromsoft banning players for disconnecting is a VERY GOOD thing that has been sorely needed for many years. the problem isnt that they are banning people for breaking the games rules and negatively impacting the gameplay of other players who are playing within the rules, the problem is that their own servers are kicking people out so often that some people are getting softbans for it. i know regular pvp'ers who are obviously not alt f4ing that have gotten these softbans, its not just whiny players looking to escape invasions that are getting these bans.

in dark souls 3, unintentional disconnects were very rare if you had a decent connection. if your net is so garbage that you cant play online without constantly disconnecting, then you shouldnt be playing online, so getting banned for unintentional disconnects due to your own poor connection is also a very positive thing for the game. most players also will not run into actual cheaters nearly often enough for disconnecting on cheaters to incur a ban. if you think someone will actually ♥♥♥♥ with your save file or something, a single disconnect is not going to ban and it is highly, highly unlikely you will run into another malicious cheater in a short enough period of time to incur a ban.

server performance needs to be improved so players stop getting kicked out of multiplayer sessions, but actually handing out softbans for people who disconnect? that is a hugely positive step in the right direction by fromsoftware and 100% should stay.

[Insurgent Lyndis]

but why ban "helper" if they dc since the objective of invader is to kill the host ? It actually make it easier for them but still punish the coop player from a crash.

[This Mongrel Is Fissionable]

Originally posted by DayLight1943:

the problem is that fromsofts servers are not functioning properly for the amt of players playing the game right now so lots of people are getting disconnected thru no fault of their own. i have a ton of ds3 pvp experience and its pretty easy to tell the difference most of the time.

fromsoft banning players for disconnecting is a VERY GOOD thing that has been sorely needed for many years. the problem isnt that they are banning people for breaking the games rules and negatively impacting the gameplay of other players who are playing within the rules, the problem is that their own servers are kicking people out so often that some people are getting softbans for it. i know regular pvp'ers who are obviously not alt f4ing that have gotten these softbans, its not just whiny players looking to escape invasions that are getting these bans.

in dark souls 3, unintentional disconnects were very rare if you had a decent connection. if your net is so garbage that you cant play online without constantly disconnecting, then you shouldnt be playing online, so getting banned for unintentional disconnects due to your own poor connection is also a very positive thing for the game. most players also will not run into actual cheaters nearly often enough for disconnecting on cheaters to incur a ban. if you think someone will actually ♥♥♥♥ with your save file or something, a single disconnect is not going to ban and it is highly, highly unlikely you will run into another malicious cheater in a short enough period of time to incur a ban.

server performance needs to be improved so players stop getting kicked out of multiplayer sessions, but actually handing out softbans for people who disconnect? that is a hugely positive step in the right direction by fromsoftware and 100% should stay.

Yup. I've never been banned in any souls game before, despite always participating in a ton of multiplayer, both coop and pvp. It's just Elden Ring has so many issues with random crashes and connectivity, that it almost impossible to avoid for me. The most frustrating part isn't even that I have to wait for 10 hours now, but that I know that it will happen again and there's nothing I can do about it. I will just be locked out of playing with my friends over and over again.

Just because this system has always been this way doesn't mean that there's no reason to improve on it. Again: The very least they could do would be to still allow coop via private password.