Endgame feels abit rushed

[imrn]

Beated the game yesterday and feel kinda meh about the endgame bosses overall. Is it just me??

[dande48]

I loved the first half of the final boss. I feel like the "different" Elden Lord endings were disappointing. After all the hard work to get a specific ending, the main differences were the camera filter and the final word, "Age of ___".

[Rord64]

Originally posted by .:

It kind of felt like every boss in the last third or so had nearly the same patterns and were insanely easy to avoid.

How was Malenia?

[KruxSmash]

Originally posted by dande313:

I loved the first half of the final boss. I feel like the "different" Elden Lord endings were disappointing. After all the hard work to get a specific ending, the main differences were the camera filter and the final word, "Age of ___".

Are you telling me they Mass Effect 3'd us?

[Dregora]

Originally posted by .:

Originally posted by Rord64:

How was Malenia?

Everyone hyped her up as impossible. By that point, unless you have a nonsense build like 1 point in every stat, she's pretty simple in souls terms.

There's always that one guy that thinks everything is too easy and tries to play it off he beat her no problem. Too bad you'll never do it, but I would love to see you fight her on equal grounds.


But if you include all the broken stuff like ash summons and what not then yeah she's ''easy''.

[Dregora]

Originally posted by .:

Originally posted by Dregora:

There's always that one guy that thinks everything is too easy and tries to play it off he beat her no problem. Too bad you'll never do it, but I would love to see you fight her on equal grounds.


But if you include all the broken stuff like ash summons and what not then yeah she's ''easy''.

Always with the assumptions. Equal grounds to you probably means sl1 no armor base weapon. It's ridiculous the hoops you and others will jump through to attempt to bring others down to your level of sucking because you can't fathom that some people just didn't build their characters like a reject. The damage output available from simple builds in Elden Ring is insane, and demanding everyone just gimp themselves to feel challenged is stupid.

But you know that and want to defend the poor balancing of late game because it personally offends you that it might be criticized. End game was clearly rushed compared to the relative polish of early game, and Malenia isn't even that hard in comparison to other souls titles.

This isn't even mentioning that every single build has access to quick step or bloodhound's step if you're struggling with anything, but those are cheating I'm certain. If someone used dex, well they should try str and see how hard it is. If someone used str, well they should try dex and see how hard it is. The goalposts will always move, and the person that didn't find it challenging will always be wrong because they cheated to the person on the other end, for arbitrary reasons they make up on the fly.

I use ashes myself, I have no issues with overpowered things or builds. The reason i'm bringing that up is because previous souls games weren't AS generous with stuff like that. Yes you still had summons, but they sucked and in a lot of cases, made it harder due to the inflated HP bosses would get. + they'd die fast and did barely to little damage.

I'm putting Malenia on equal footing with previous souls games in order to talk about her difficulty. Only reason I brought it up. We have so many more tools available in Elden Ring, so saying she's easier than other souls bosses while you allow yourself to have access to all those skills previous souls games do not have, can make the comparison void.


It has nothing to do with my build sucking or trying to pull you down. You made the statement in this very post i'm quoting, to which you said ''and Malenia isn't even that hard in comparison to other souls titles''. Then defeat her without these strong ashes and one shot capabilities that you'd most likely not have access to in other souls games.

As long as you don't (not saying you have to, I know I won't) you cannot possibly make that comparison.

Nobody is cheating here, i'm a firm believer of ''use whatever tools you have at your disposal as long as they aren't straight up glitches'' but if you make a comment like that, fight her on equal footing before you make such a comparison. That's all i'm saying.

[Funpire]

I found everything from Giant Mountain onward to be entirely too large and lackluster. The claustrophobic and intrinsic level design just isn't there.

[miqz]

Originally posted by .:

Originally posted by Rord64:

How was Malenia?

Everyone hyped her up as impossible. By that point, unless you have a nonsense build like 1 point in every stat, she's pretty simple in souls terms.

Yeah nah you dont actually even know what you're talking about if you say she's easier than any of the bosses in the previous games

[Seoul]

my problem was early game underleveled and late game overleveled....no real challenge in the end

[Twice]

Originally posted by Dregora:

Originally posted by .:

Everyone hyped her up as impossible. By that point, unless you have a nonsense build like 1 point in every stat, she's pretty simple in souls terms.

There's always that one guy that thinks everything is too easy and tries to play it off he beat her no problem. Too bad you'll never do it, but I would love to see you fight her on equal grounds.


But if you include all the broken stuff like ash summons and what not then yeah she's ''easy''.

You consider Ash summons broken? So you wouldn't use a single one even when the game is designed around them? It has an entire array of dungeons for you to complete JUST to get more use out of them.

Whether or not you like ash summons, they are a core part of the game and you are expected to use them. Why do you think there's so many duo boss-fights in this game? It's certainly not because it makes them quality fights, because that would mean less reused assets, like putting regular enemies with beefed HP bars on the boss-throne.

[urabe mikoto]

Half of the game feels rushed

[Damien]

Originally posted by imrn:

Beated the game yesterday and feel kinda meh about the endgame bosses overall. Is it just me??

Maybe you just rushed the game?

[Onni]

Originally posted by .:

Originally posted by KruxSmash:

Are you telling me they Mass Effect 3'd us?

Basically. Two of the endings are basically a filter change, one gets a tiny bit of extra cutscene at the end with a panning shot to go with it, and another gets a short monologue change with some scenery used earlier in the game. They're all extremely similar.

Idk about that one, Lord of Frenzy ending was sick AF imo, the others were anti climactic tho

[r]

Originally posted by miqz:

Originally posted by .:

Everyone hyped her up as impossible. By that point, unless you have a nonsense build like 1 point in every stat, she's pretty simple in souls terms.

Yeah nah you dont actually even know what you're talking about if you say she's easier than any of the bosses in the previous games

Lol people say the Fire Giant is hard but I did it first try.

Ofc Malenia is a bit different, but I'm still confused how people keep saying Fire Giant is one of the hardest bosses in the game, imo other than the regular mobs with boss bars/music he's the easiest.

[Plynther]

Playing with a strength melee build, they just seem unbalanced to me. Mimic Tear and Magic makes it easier, but why should I be forced to use something I don't want to or I don't like? Especially after all the freedom I felt playing DS3 over and over again with different weird builds and stupid weapons that were still usable.

[Onni]

Originally posted by nines:

Originally posted by miqz:

Yeah nah you dont actually even know what you're talking about if you say she's easier than any of the bosses in the previous games

Lol people say the Fire Giant is hard but I did it first try.

Ofc Malenia is a bit different, but I'm still confused how people keep saying Fire Giant is one of the hardest bosses in the game, imo other than the regular mobs with boss bars/music he's the easiest.

Same first phase just doge and 2nd phase stick to the ass