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HellSlayer Mar 8, 2022 @ 1:23am
I cant find my weapon type..
UPDATE: maybe i should focus on troublesome enemies and base my weapon on this? lets say giants - how do i melee them? Even if i can block the weapons might not have enough reach? I dont know havent tried much maybe im bad. Whats your prefered weapon if you gotta fight it without a horse(lets say its a giant boss for example)

As a noobie i know i want to focus on shield and block.. but i just cant even find an idea what type of weapon i like...
supposedly for bossing i would like to be quick to attack so i can block and retreat.
So its a one handed but i would like to scale str but i think one handers go with dex almost always.

I was thinking about claws but im not certain. Also some weapons stagger enemies much more.

p.s. two hand wealing a shield isnt my option because shield almost has no range and is very slow to attack.
Last edited by HellSlayer; Mar 8, 2022 @ 1:40am
Originally posted by Butt Force:
Originally posted by HellSlayer:
Originally posted by Butt Force:
I think you're a halberd man, like me. Enemies have a lot of sweeping AOEs and guard breaks. Try the Golden Halberd to get a feel for it. If you like that, I strongly recommend trying the totally rejected Pest Glaive from Mineshrimps for its excellent moveset. I'm terrorizing people with it during my Stormveil invasions - range and speed of a spear but it swings wide and fast to slap rollers around like golf balls.
You mean pure haldberd or halberd + shield? I did a run until lvl ~55 where i put all points in endurance and str for greatshield. I had no HP.. i dealt a ton of dmg but vs bosses i stood no chance mainly bcos no HP. so its partially my bad..

I lost to godrick ~70times.. never beaten so i dont want to repeat exact same build. :D im hoping for some other weapon type.
I do pure halberd. The attacks I really want to block are, more often than not, unblockable. It's easier for me to just learn the exact attack ranges and use pole length to land hits and staggers. It's worth mentioning that halberd class weapons are NOT slow. They have S class range, A/B class speed and B/C class per-hit damage/stagger.

When you can choose when you deal damage conveniently, you'll discover you're dealing more over time than you might with another weapon class that can't use range and speed as well.

I do use a crossbow offhand in pvp just to punish people for standing around thrusting their hips at me, the lowly invader.
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AJ_ Mar 8, 2022 @ 1:25am 
use a mace + shield
you can use ashes of war later to change the scaling even more into strength
Watchdogs staff + Greatshield.

I highly recommend it.
Butt Force Mar 8, 2022 @ 1:34am 
I think you're a halberd man, like me. Enemies have a lot of sweeping AOEs and guard breaks. Try the Golden Halberd to get a feel for it. If you like that, I strongly recommend trying the totally rejected Pest Glaive from Mineshrimps for its excellent moveset. I'm terrorizing people with it during my Stormveil invasions - range and speed of a spear but it swings wide and fast to slap rollers around like golf balls.
HellSlayer Mar 8, 2022 @ 1:36am 
Originally posted by ṼṏẌṏḭḊ:
Watchdogs staff + Greatshield.

I highly recommend it.
Isnt staff a spell casting item? I considered it and tried with prophet and astrologer but somehow spells were a let down - i dislike pebble even the name is lame.. i havent found any cool spells that punch hard so maybe thats why but i dont want to scout spoiler information so me finding some great spell might take too long.
HellSlayer Mar 8, 2022 @ 1:39am 
Originally posted by Butt Force:
I think you're a halberd man, like me. Enemies have a lot of sweeping AOEs and guard breaks. Try the Golden Halberd to get a feel for it. If you like that, I strongly recommend trying the totally rejected Pest Glaive from Mineshrimps for its excellent moveset. I'm terrorizing people with it during my Stormveil invasions - range and speed of a spear but it swings wide and fast to slap rollers around like golf balls.
You mean pure haldberd or halberd + shield? I did a run until lvl ~55 where i put all points in endurance and str for greatshield. I had no HP.. i dealt a ton of dmg but vs bosses i stood no chance mainly bcos no HP. so its partially my bad..

I lost to godrick ~70times.. never beaten so i dont want to repeat exact same build. :D im hoping for some other weapon type.
Originally posted by HellSlayer:
Originally posted by ṼṏẌṏḭḊ:
Watchdogs staff + Greatshield.

I highly recommend it.
Isnt staff a spell casting item? I considered it and tried with prophet and astrologer but somehow spells were a let down - i dislike pebble even the name is lame.. i havent found any cool spells that punch hard so maybe thats why but i dont want to scout spoiler information so me finding some great spell might take too long.
It's called a staff, but it's a colossal mace.
AJ_ Mar 8, 2022 @ 1:39am 
some spells are pretty OP, but come later in the game
you can also play melee + spellcaster hybrid, there are a lot of melee weapons that scale with INT or FTH
early game melee + shield, later OP spells to nuke bosses
AJ_ Mar 8, 2022 @ 1:40am 
early game i recommend leveling Vigor to 20-30 and using a Fire ash of war on your weapon (great base damage, no high stats required)
HellSlayer Mar 8, 2022 @ 1:43am 
Originally posted by AJ_:
early game i recommend leveling Vigor to 20-30 and using a Fire ash of war on your weapon (great base damage, no high stats required)
i have no idea about ashes of war and i certainly dont want to press another extra button (for ability).. i havent gotten used to combat buttons because its too much. Most deaths are for me to trying walk backwards with shield raise when no enemy is selected - backstabs lol... so pls no abilities :(
AJ_ Mar 8, 2022 @ 1:44am 
Originally posted by HellSlayer:
Originally posted by AJ_:
early game i recommend leveling Vigor to 20-30 and using a Fire ash of war on your weapon (great base damage, no high stats required)
i have no idea about ashes of war and i certainly dont want to press another extra button (for ability).. i havent gotten used to combat buttons because its too much. Most deaths are for me to trying walk backwards with shield raise when no enemy is selected - backstabs lol... so pls no abilities :(

no its a passive weapon upgrade, you weapon will then always do normal damage + fire damage
Baron01 Mar 8, 2022 @ 1:46am 
Shield + Spear = very starter-friendly combination. Spear/Pike is only weapon, as far as I know, that you can use with raised shield. You also have a lot of different type of weapons in this category that scale either with Dexterity or Strength and there are also option to go Faith route.

I like spear move set and its solid reach. It is not the best weapon for clearing packs of enemies but it is very solid 1-2-1 weapon. Its charge attack is very potent and jump heavy attack has very high poise damage and will stagger a lot of enemies.
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Butt Force Mar 8, 2022 @ 1:50am 
Originally posted by HellSlayer:
Originally posted by Butt Force:
I think you're a halberd man, like me. Enemies have a lot of sweeping AOEs and guard breaks. Try the Golden Halberd to get a feel for it. If you like that, I strongly recommend trying the totally rejected Pest Glaive from Mineshrimps for its excellent moveset. I'm terrorizing people with it during my Stormveil invasions - range and speed of a spear but it swings wide and fast to slap rollers around like golf balls.
You mean pure haldberd or halberd + shield? I did a run until lvl ~55 where i put all points in endurance and str for greatshield. I had no HP.. i dealt a ton of dmg but vs bosses i stood no chance mainly bcos no HP. so its partially my bad..

I lost to godrick ~70times.. never beaten so i dont want to repeat exact same build. :D im hoping for some other weapon type.
I do pure halberd. The attacks I really want to block are, more often than not, unblockable. It's easier for me to just learn the exact attack ranges and use pole length to land hits and staggers. It's worth mentioning that halberd class weapons are NOT slow. They have S class range, A/B class speed and B/C class per-hit damage/stagger.

When you can choose when you deal damage conveniently, you'll discover you're dealing more over time than you might with another weapon class that can't use range and speed as well.

I do use a crossbow offhand in pvp just to punish people for standing around thrusting their hips at me, the lowly invader.
Last edited by Butt Force; Mar 8, 2022 @ 1:53am
HellSlayer Mar 8, 2022 @ 2:11am 
Originally posted by Butt Force:
Originally posted by HellSlayer:
You mean pure haldberd or halberd + shield? I did a run until lvl ~55 where i put all points in endurance and str for greatshield. I had no HP.. i dealt a ton of dmg but vs bosses i stood no chance mainly bcos no HP. so its partially my bad..

I lost to godrick ~70times.. never beaten so i dont want to repeat exact same build. :D im hoping for some other weapon type.
I do pure halberd. The attacks I really want to block are, more often than not, unblockable. It's easier for me to just learn the exact attack ranges and use pole length to land hits and staggers. It's worth mentioning that halberd class weapons are NOT slow. They have S class range, A/B class speed and B/C class per-hit damage/stagger.

When you can choose when you deal damage conveniently, you'll discover you're dealing more over time than you might with another weapon class that can't use range and speed as well.

I do use a crossbow offhand in pvp just to punish people for standing around thrusting their hips at me, the lowly invader.

Thanks for detailed explanation. I too dont care much about damage its about speed and reach i suppose. Well if i get into fight with 5 mobs i just run away until i can take them one by one so damage for me isnt much. Sadly im still considering wealding shield in both hands but im hoping i can find a weapon. I will mark the thread closed as solved and will ponder on this until i get better at game.
Fen'Haral Mar 8, 2022 @ 2:15am 
The only Truth is Greatsword. personally recommend lordsworn or claymore. something around that size/weight ratio
Last edited by Fen'Haral; Mar 8, 2022 @ 2:15am
Sneaky_Bugger Mar 8, 2022 @ 2:20am 
Originally posted by HellSlayer:
Originally posted by Butt Force:
I do pure halberd. The attacks I really want to block are, more often than not, unblockable. It's easier for me to just learn the exact attack ranges and use pole length to land hits and staggers. It's worth mentioning that halberd class weapons are NOT slow. They have S class range, A/B class speed and B/C class per-hit damage/stagger.

When you can choose when you deal damage conveniently, you'll discover you're dealing more over time than you might with another weapon class that can't use range and speed as well.

I do use a crossbow offhand in pvp just to punish people for standing around thrusting their hips at me, the lowly invader.

Thanks for detailed explanation. I too dont care much about damage its about speed and reach i suppose. Well if i get into fight with 5 mobs i just run away until i can take them one by one so damage for me isnt much. Sadly im still considering wealding shield in both hands but im hoping i can find a weapon. I will mark the thread closed as solved and will ponder on this until i get better at game.

The answer above seems to be pretty accurate. The one thing I´ve learned that fits pretty much all these games is, that you don´t need to roll, block or parry. Spacing and positioning is key. Be in the right spot at the right time and you wont get hit and even better, you can actually hit the enemy. I did this a lot in Nioh 2 when I play heavy weapons like an axe. In ER this seems to be possible as well. I didn´t try with halberd yet but Katana and Zweihander work so I don´t see why other weapons shouldn´t work. Halberd seems to be the weapon of choice for that, as the "choosen answer" explains. Long reach plus good damage is perfect for playing the "positioning game".
Last but not least, when you simply "move" in ER the boss attacks wont track you. When you roll and roll too early they will hit you plus you have the "recovery time" from the roll where you are vulnerable to follow up attacks. Personal experience, that I can´t proof yet. When you simply "step aside" enemies tend to stop their attack chain and "reset". If you roll they go with a 3hit combo for example. If I simply step aside and hit them, they will stop their "combo" and try again.
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Date Posted: Mar 8, 2022 @ 1:23am
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