Ultra greatswords feel off to anyone?

[Nero Armis]

I mained Ultra great sword in dk3 and they felt great and felt rewarding to play as you normally had time to hit a boss and try to dodge away.. All I am finding myself doing is jump attacks now. Because every other attack wind up takes so long ( there is dodge roll attack of course but it requires extra stam then to also dodge away )
Bosses are extremely snappy and normally don't give you windows of opportunity. Atleast of course not in this game compared to dks3. I even mained dks2 Ultra great sword and it felt better against bosses... some. some bosses.
But even minibosses are giving me a run for my money or.. I go back to jumping then attack back away rinse and repeat.

I beat these bosses so easily with a dex build and faster weapons, But I just feel so punished for going Ultra great sword.. Even with 3x the stat investment to even use the dang things.

[Gamer]

They really do feel slower in this game and there’s like a short moment after a swing where u can’t roll. Imo it makes them a alot worse in this game, whereas they were really good in DS3

[Gliton]

It's basically the hard mode of the game when you reach endgame (and if you play without summon)
Slow recovery, low damage, high stamina consumption
This is not as funny as it was in DS2 and DS3

[Coin]

Feels great. I don't stick to just one weapons though.

[Capt_Lycanthro]

The weapon timings are all slightly off compared to DS3 but you make the adjustment with some practice. I've been maining the Grafted Sword for a while now and I'm actually better with it in PvE than I ever was with an Ultra-Great in DS3.

[Nero Armis]

For me personally the damage just doesn't feel good either. As I said. It is 3 times the stat investment. Endurance so you can actually wield the thing and wear some type of armor. Vigor for literally any build. You don't put points into that you are already dead. High str ( obviously ) Some even require a good bit in Dex or crazy enough INT??
Faith as well. I think there are only 2 or 3 pure ultra greatswords in the game. Whcih just needs mostly str. Out of the 9?

The 2 or 3 are no where near as useful though.
But I can go in with a moonveil ( which yes it does require so high stat but the weight and damage I am getting are about the same ) I can also get bleed. Hits more doing more damage. Plus its special destroys beings.

[Ser_Fall]

Certain bosses are better fought with faster weapons because they are so aggressive. So yes sometimes big boy weapon users will have a much harder time. There are so many upgrade materials thrown at you it shouldnt be an issue to have a faster secondary.

[Coin]

Originally posted by Ser_Fall:

Certain bosses are better fought with faster weapons because they are so aggressive. So yes sometimes big boy weapon users will have a much harder time. There are so many upgrade materials thrown at you it shouldnt be an issue to have a faster secondary.

Why only use one weapon though? Adapt, improvise, prepare.

[Nero Armis]

Originally posted by Coin:

Originally posted by Ser_Fall:

Certain bosses are better fought with faster weapons because they are so aggressive. So yes sometimes big boy weapon users will have a much harder time. There are so many upgrade materials thrown at you it shouldnt be an issue to have a faster secondary.

Why only use one weapon though? Adapt, improvise, prepare.

Hard to adapt to alot of things in this game unless you have a larval tear. ( don't have one yet for this character. )
I can tell somethings way off with damage. Using a +2 bloodhound fang. Does more damage than a + blaiid's ultra greatsword against the same enemy. Which shouldn't make any sense. You could try to do the math of maybe the enemy is magic resistant. But even still damage feels way off.

[urabe mikoto]

Originally posted by Ultimate Stinka:

They really do feel slower in this game and there’s like a short moment after a swing where u can’t roll. Imo it makes them a alot worse in this game, whereas they were really good in DS3

They are not slower, enemies are too fast. The claymore seems barely fast enough to get a single R1 punish during certain bosses. I don't even want to know how awful playing with ultras must feel lol

[Coin]

Originally posted by Nero Armis:

Originally posted by Coin:

Why only use one weapon though? Adapt, improvise, prepare.

Hard to adapt to alot of things in this game unless you have a larval tear. ( don't have one yet for this character. )
I can tell somethings way off with damage. Using a +2 bloodhound fang. Does more damage than a + blaiid's ultra greatsword against the same enemy. Which shouldn't make any sense. You could try to do the math of maybe the enemy is magic resistant. But even still damage feels way off.

Bruh, i use Royal Greatsword (Blaidd ugs) and it destroys ♥♥♥♥ like there's no tommorow. And then you add the VA...

[Nero Armis]

Originally posted by urabe mikoto:

Originally posted by Ultimate Stinka:

They really do feel slower in this game and there’s like a short moment after a swing where u can’t roll. Imo it makes them a alot worse in this game, whereas they were really good in DS3

They are not slower, enemies are too fast. The claymore seems barely fast enough to get a single R1 punish during certain bosses. I don't even want to know how awful playing with ultras must feel lol

After you swing. If you happen to miss. It takes a whole 2 seconds just to throw out the sword. Then another 2 seconds before you can respond with a dodge. And obviously if you do hit. you are still stuck in animation. The boss will punish you.

[Coin]

Originally posted by urabe mikoto:

Originally posted by Ultimate Stinka:

They really do feel slower in this game and there’s like a short moment after a swing where u can’t roll. Imo it makes them a alot worse in this game, whereas they were really good in DS3

They are not slower, enemies are too fast. The claymore seems barely fast enough to get a single R1 punish during certain bosses. I don't even want to know how awful playing with ultras must feel lol

Feels great.

[A Space Hamster]

Try usin' crouch attacks more- it feels like what ultras are built for now.

this is especially noticeable with how every ultra, from the relatively low damage zweihander to the comically high attack power greatsword, has the super-quick rolling poke for its crouch attack- its so fast that in can roll-catch on reaction in pvp.

honestly, i didnt have anywhere near as much trouble once i started abusin' this attack

hell, i had a better time just mainly using that attack with some heavies and jumping heavies thown in against the hardest bosses in the game than with faster weapons, like great thrusting swords and curved swords

[Funpire]

No combo potential really ruins ultras imo.

[Nero Armis]

Originally posted by Coin:

Originally posted by Nero Armis:

Hard to adapt to alot of things in this game unless you have a larval tear. ( don't have one yet for this character. )
I can tell somethings way off with damage. Using a +2 bloodhound fang. Does more damage than a + blaiid's ultra greatsword against the same enemy. Which shouldn't make any sense. You could try to do the math of maybe the enemy is magic resistant. But even still damage feels way off.

Bruh, i use Royal Greatsword (Blaidd ugs) and it destroys ♥♥♥♥ like there's no tommorow. And then you add the VA...

I bet it does. Which is why I am saying it is weird. And possible enemy type. A normal greatsword shouldn't beat an ultra is straight stat checking.