How do we know where to go next?

[joonkimdmd]

This game doesn't tell me where to go.
Even after going around everywhere to do all the side quests or hidden dungeons, it doesn't let me progress the story.

For example, how do I know where the large stone fell after defeating the boss at the desert? (I found it in Lymberg by watching youtube because there is no NPC or questlog to tell me where to go next)

And after going under the ground to find the item, how am I supposed to know to go back to Rani's castle? And to the study hall?

And after that, how do I know where to go after defeating the dragonfly boss? (this is where I am stuck now)

[Witch]

It's the way that souls works. I tryed to do it without a guide much as possible, but the lack of explanation push me to youtube.

[joonkimdmd]

Originally posted by Witch:

It's the way that souls works. I tryed to do it without a guide much as possible, but the lack of explanation push me to youtube.

Are you serious? There is no way to know where to go except searching on youtube? That's a really bad design no matter how fun the game is. I never got stuck in demon's soul or bloodborne or sekiro because they were linear pathways with some shortcuts. In Elden Ring, I seriously have visited everywhere but I don't want to visit 50ish places all again just to find out if a cutscene is going to get triggered.

[Muscarine]

On your map you can see some of the graces you activated show arrows, that's the direction to the next grace closer to an important objective

On top of it whenever you know that you accomplished something important, defeat a major boss, resolved a quest step and so on, don't forget to do a quick detour and talk to people at the Roundtable, lots of things evolve

[joonkimdmd]

Originally posted by Muscarine:

On your map you can see some of the graces you activated show arrows, that's the direction to the next grace closer to an important objective

On top of it whenever you know that you accomplished something important, defeat a major boss, resolved a quest step and so on, don't forget to do a quick detour and talk to people at the Roundtable, lots of things evolve

I unlocked all the graces currently available. But there are places that the game doesnt progress anymore unless you get lucky or find youtube channel.
I talked to the ppl at the roundtable but none of them told me where to go.

[NamelessKing]

you have to go burn down the erndtree

[joonkimdmd]

Originally posted by CanadianHaze420:

you have to go burn down the erndtree

How am I supposed to know that? And are t there like 4-5 of them?

[Broso]

In the beginning you are told to follow the guiding lights on the map. After you're invited into Roundtable Hold you're told you need to go and find a Shardbearer. You're also given information at least on the first one in Stormveil Castle at that point. Although you could technically go and encounter like three others already if you were to explore. It's not needed though. After defeating your first Shardbearer, you will get information on the others. Then when you have defeated some more, you will be told to go to the Capital and from there you will get even more information on what to do next.

This game tells you more about what your objective is than any of the earlier Souls titles. The one thing that irked me was the fact that it is rather easy to miss the talk with Melina in the beginning of the game that unlocks the horse and the leveling up feature. Everything else I found out myself rather easily.

Getting the prerequisites for the different endings is a different matter entirely though.


Edit:

And regarding the thing with the fallen meteorite. You're told that it fell somewhere in Limgrave. Now, if you go to Limgrave and look around a bit, you will notice floating debris in the air from quite a distance away. It's hard NOT to notice.

[lilac]

Originally posted by joonkimdmd:

Originally posted by CanadianHaze420:

you have to go burn down the erndtree

How am I supposed to know that? And are t there like 4-5 of them?

your not supposed to know that because it is a spoiler

[Giblix]

What Broso says.

perfect example of how modern game design has made people complacent and stupid. unable to think and figure stuff out for themselves anymore. it isn't just a Darksouls thing. it is how games like Zelda, the old JRPG's, Ultima etc also were. Gamers back then were able to think and figure ♥♥♥♥ out. Nowadays they need to have their hands held to even tie their shoes or they'd fall over. I'm glad we get some games made in the older fashion instead of the lazy "follow questmarker" nonsense. Where NPC's tell you the same information in 3 different ways to make sure you're not dumb enough to miss the obvious clues.

Cutscenes, dialogues etc give enough information to know where to go next. If you did everyything as claimed. Then you know that Blaidd, in service to Renna is looking for Nokron. And you also have seen in the general direction the meteor went. Put the pieces together and figure it out ... geez.

[Words And Chaos]

Squiggly things on the map, swirly things around sites of grace, use your brain.

[Glimmer]

Tell me you mashed A through the tutorial messages and dialogue without telling me you mashed A through the tutorial messages and dialogue.

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

"How do we know where to go next?" - omfg....

[Krag]

Originally posted by joonkimdmd:

For example, how do I know where the large stone fell after defeating the boss at the desert? (I found it in Lymberg by watching youtube because there is no NPC or questlog to tell me where to go next)

The giant blacksmith does tell you.

[Gnasty Gnorc]

Originally posted by joonkimdmd:

Originally posted by Witch:

It's the way that souls works. I tryed to do it without a guide much as possible, but the lack of explanation push me to youtube.

Are you serious? There is no way to know where to go except searching on youtube? That's a really bad design no matter how fun the game is. I never got stuck in demon's soul or bloodborne or sekiro because they were linear pathways with some shortcuts. In Elden Ring, I seriously have visited everywhere but I don't want to visit 50ish places all again just to find out if a cutscene is going to get triggered.

The yellow marks on your map literally tell you where to go for story progression.

It's not bad game design. You're just used to games being linear and holding your hand.

This game lets you go anywhere in any order you want.

Don't complain about bad game design because you're too dumb to literally figure out that you can go anywhere at any time.

[Fen'Haral]

Originally posted by joonkimdmd:

This game doesn't tell me where to go.
Even after going around everywhere to do all the side quests or hidden dungeons, it doesn't let me progress the story.

For example, how do I know where the large stone fell after defeating the boss at the desert? (I found it in Lymberg by watching youtube because there is no NPC or questlog to tell me where to go next)

And after going under the ground to find the item, how am I supposed to know to go back to Rani's castle? And to the study hall?

And after that, how do I know where to go after defeating the dragonfly boss? (this is where I am stuck now)

read the key items you collect. they give you a hint/general goal.
LIterally most npcs tell you to go to limgrave, and because I'm not going to spoil anyone, the moment you arrive there it takes one look at the sky to see where to go. like what?
You have to read the item descriptions or talk to the npcs that are in your story at the moment for hints. The direction they give you is consistent until you achieve a goal to progress the story.