The duels in front of the giant jar. (MASSIVE SALT)

[Sir Harlz]

Not going to spoil anything, but there is a bit where you fight three people in a row in front of a jar. They are NPC red phantoms that you summon and they are random each time.

I AM NOW CONVINCED THAT FROMSOFT MUST HAVE HIRED SOME GUY WHO LIVES IN A SHACK IN A WOOD TO PROGRAM THIS! Because the rest of the game is very good which implies people with braincells made it. This part is so bad that it is littery impossible for the person who made it to have even a single braincell. I CANNOT PUT INTO WORDS HOW BAD IT IS. IT DEFIES EXPLANATION!

To give you a idea, I want you to imagine all the WORST dark souls 2 npc's. Good now make them worst. Good now make it so you fight three of them in a row. Whatever you are imagining is still not bad enough. I have done a fair amount of PvP in this game and these NPC's break SO MANY RULES it baffles me.

LEMME JUST TRY TO EXPLAIN.
1. They are able to cancel animations IN THE MIDDLE OF BEING ATTACKED, I was attacking one and he just said "nah, not feeling it" and managed to jump in and do a jump attack WHILE IN THE MIDDLE OF ME ATTACKING HIM WITH A STRAIGHT SWORD.
2. You can only hit them once, then they roll away or do something worst. You know how normal poise works? Forget about it, these guys just make their own rules.
3. Unlimited FP and they will spam abilities that will quickly let you know what that is a AWFUL IDEA. You ever have someone spam the froststomp NONSTOP, well now you can feel the joy!
4. I counted their HP, one of them had 5000 hitpoints. 5 0 0 0 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ HIT POINTS!
5. You have to kill them all in a row, no getting flask refills.
6. If a wizard hits you with a spell it's probably at least 60% of your hp. If a wizard melee's you it's 40-50% of your hp cause these guys are just masters of all.
7. If they buff themselves, the buffs never go away it seems.
8. One of them did at least 1000 damage with a SINGLE shield attack, I know this because my HP is 1050 at the moment and he ONE SHOTTED WITH ME WITH A GREATSHIELD.
9. Sometimes they speed up their animations so much you can see not finishing the animations.
10. IF YOU GET LUCKY, THE DUELIST YOU SUMMON WILL ONLY HAVE 3000 HP!
11. If you make a single mistake you die because any attack might be a one shot unless you have at least 1500 HP, I was able to get 1400 using items and STILL got one shotted at one point when at full hp.
12. If you don't make a mistake you might still die cause the games says and the NPC just felt like not getting staggered that time and instead just casually starts a attack after getting hit 3 times in a row without being staggered and it's too late for you to dodge. Also that NPC will probably be wearing cloth robes just to rub it in.

[Muscarine]

Originally posted by Sir Harlz:

2. You can only hit them once, then they roll away or do something worst. You know how normal poise works? Forget about it, these guys just make their own rules.

Haven't done this part yet, put just so you know

Most combos are gone in ER, only true combos come from AoWs
2 fast R1s don't combo even on thrusting swords

My favorite DS3 pairing, Flamberge + Estoc, gone altogether

[Sir Harlz]

Originally posted by Muscarine:

Originally posted by Sir Harlz:

2. You can only hit them once, then they roll away or do something worst. You know how normal poise works? Forget about it, these guys just make their own rules.

Haven't done this part yet, put just so you know

Most combos are gone in ER, only true combos come from AoWs
2 fast R1s don't combo even on thrusting swords

My favorite DS3 pairing, Flamberge + Estoc, gone altogether

With normal players, when I stagger them I can get one more hit in. So if I hit them once I can guarantee one more hit. These guys break that rule. Though you are mostly correct, some straight swords only get one hit for some reason.

[SmallGespenst]

yeah, those guys suck. it's also a huge pain that there's no Stake so the one slip-up that gets you instant killed mandates a tedious corpse run.

[Big Benji]

I feel your pain. The high Health pool NPCs are really an annoyance and getting hit is almost a demise. It took me many of tries with using claws for bleed and having quickstep helps so incredibly much because it gives you long I-frames against those arts/spells.

[Witch]

Get this then the game is easy. https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Ash+of+War:+Hoarfrost+Stomp

I abuse it cause i consider that good bosses are able to dodge it and most of bosses i kill with it are a plague to hit with regular weapon without trade half my lifebar.

[Dollmaker]

Theres actually a way to cheese them if you hate it that much... trust me they deserve it....

Basically you gotta go to the edge on a specific spot, crouch and make them roll off it with a range attack, the spot is right next to the fog wall on Jar's side, on the left.

[Sir Harlz]

Originally posted by Witch:

Get this then the game is easy. https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Ash+of+War:+Hoarfrost+Stomp

I abuse it cause i consider that good bosses are able to dodge it and most of bosses i kill with it are a plague to hit with regular weapon without trade half my lifebar.

That stomp and the dragon breath attacks are the bane of my existence when i do PvP...

[Imperial Guardsman]

Just make them roll off a cliff, easy.

[Gaben´s sword]

git gud

[Daegon]

Git gud scrub, GIT GUD.
I killed all of them with my starter Uchigatana without any problem just by doing running strong attack two handed landing hemorrhage and some weapon arts, ez.

[JonWoo]

I haven't done this yet but it definitely sounds like you're not going to like the Fia's Champions fight.

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by Jonwoo89:

I haven't done this yet but it definitely sounds like you're not going to like the Fia's Champions fight.

Nah mate, those guys were considerably easier than those three.

[Fuhrer]

Honestly, the only part of this that pissed me off was those archers respawning on new attempts. Was that really necessary?

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by Fuhrer:

Honestly, the only part of this that pissed me off was those archers respawning on new attempts. Was that really necessary?

You can actually ignore the first one, and some heavy attacks on the ankles of the other one while hes charging the shot usually ended on an insta kill riposte

[Imperial Guardsman]

Originally posted by Jonwoo89:

I haven't done this yet but it definitely sounds like you're not going to like the Fia's Champions fight.

Those folks are easy, because they don't 1 or 2 hit me, and they definitely don't have 5k HP, and ridiculous poise.