Definition of Gank

[Rosario]

A gank is when you use greater numbers as your primary means of winning a fight, a 3v1 fight where all the 3 are actively engaging the 1 for example.

I feel compelled to say this simply because I keep seeing people use the word to mean basically any unwanted/disadvantageous fight, including 1v1s, 3v2s (3 being to their favor), that's not what it means. Plenty of people using it correctly to be sure, but plenty that aren't.

[Boss]

Publicado originalmente por Rosario:

A gank is when you use greater numbers as your primary means of winning a fight, a 3v1 fight where all the 3 are actively engaging the 1 for example.

I feel compelled to say this simply because I keep seeing people use the word to mean basically any unwanted/disadvantageous fight, including 1v1s, 3v2s (3 being to their favor), that's not what it means. Plenty of people using it correctly to be sure, but plenty that aren't.

You are incredibly wrong. This is a problem with the Souls community being utterly and completely removed from the rest of gaming.

To GANK is to unfairly engage in PvP. It is a term that, while not originating from WoW, was popularize it. It was widespread in PvP servers, characterized by attacking someone that's busy with Mobs, being a level 60 attacking level 20 noobs in Tarren Mill, or (yes) jumping someone with greater numbers. A GANKER is always the initiator.

If you look up 'Gank Build', you'll find high burst damage assassin builds for ESO, Guild Wars, and every other MMO. Being "ganked" is also a term utilized in League of Legends, say when another jungler gets the drop on your own while he's busy, or roaming to another lane.

Gank has never exclusively meant "Gang Kill" as the souls community currently seems to mistake it for. Dickwraiths (Dark Souls 1) were constantly called dirty gankers because of the unfair advantage they had over the Hosts.

Given the Host (and Cooperators) are not the ones initiating the PvP, nor Jumping you unprepared, they are by definition NOT ganking...

...except on occasion. You know the type, that clear the map and wait for invaders.

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Back in ye olden days of vanilla WoW getting ganked was when someone ambushed you out of nowhere, not offering any kind of fair fight or battle. Dark Souls invaders began to use it to mean anyone who had a phantom pretty quickly when an invader more accurately represented the classic usage of the term, and now I guess it just means any fight I don't like.

[Rosario]

Well I guess the cancer from Elden Ring's current forum population had to come in before too long. Oh well, was nice while it lasted.

[BookItFaster]

Publicado originalmente por FireShark:

This is pvp lingo, it's not the Oxford English dictionary. A gank is just a quick catch-all term for disadvantageous situations. It's been used that way in Souls for probably almost a decade now.

dam well said

[(TTV)OnBrandRP]

Publicado originalmente por Rosario:

A gank is when you use greater numbers as your primary means of winning a fight, a 3v1 fight where all the 3 are actively engaging the 1 for example.

I feel compelled to say this simply because I keep seeing people use the word to mean basically any unwanted/disadvantageous fight, including 1v1s, 3v2s (3 being to their favor), that's not what it means. Plenty of people using it correctly to be sure, but plenty that aren't.

A gank is when it's 2v1. There's literally no way around it, this is how people have seen ganks for years lmao

[Mr. E Skull]

Publicado originalmente por Rosario:

A gank is when you use greater numbers as your primary means of winning a fight, a 3v1 fight where all the 3 are actively engaging the 1 for example.

I feel compelled to say this simply because I keep seeing people use the word to mean basically any unwanted/disadvantageous fight, including 1v1s, 3v2s (3 being to their favor), that's not what it means. Plenty of people using it correctly to be sure, but plenty that aren't.

verbINFORMAL•US
1.
take or steal (something).
"if I have the money, I won't have to gank the books"
2.
(in a video game) use underhand means to defeat or kill (a less experienced opponent).
"that troll just ganked me"

Even if we ignore that the term itself is loosely defined and not fully encompassed by a dictionary "definition". Pretty much every invasion in a Souls game is a 'gank'. A 1v1 can absolutely be a disadvantageous fight, especially for the invadee.

If you like that style of PvP it's fine. But don't pretend that most invasions are against people who want it.

[Boss]

There's no cancer; we're bitter. You're calling people genuinely trying to Coop "gankers", and acting high and mighty with some sort of warped definition of a negative term. We're getting our session hijacked for whatever length of time by an invader, with no option to opt out, with the invader fully capable of leaving with zero loss (not true of the Host), and yet we're the "gankers".

I had to mow through five invaders before beating Stormveil, just because I dared to want to have some fun with friends in a game that is.. what? 98% PvE? Because there's no restriction on invader item usage (you can use it right after a successful invasion), and no invasion protection after killing or dying to an invader - so it continues non stop, shutting down all progress.

Nevermind there's an Arena, a Duel Sign, and the eventual Dueling Clubs that are going to show up like every other Souls-like. But that's not where people complain, is it? For some reason, it's always 'invasions' that people complain about. As if the Invaders aren't looking for a proper, fair duel...

...hmm.

[Chad "The King" ThunderCuck]

actually, ganking is killing. so if you win a fight, you just ganked the other guy. internet descriptions made by dark souls players dont matter.

[Boss]

Publicado originalmente por Chad "The King" ThunderCuck:

actually, ganking is killing. so if you win a fight, you just ganked the other guy. internet descriptions made by dark souls players dont matter.

That's not what it means. MMOs/LoL where the majority of players are and the term sees regular use, gets priority on definition. It means an "unfair" attack; ie, Ambush.

People's personal definitions don't matter though, I can agree.

[Mr. E Skull]

Publicado originalmente por Chad "The King" ThunderCuck:

actually, ganking is killing. so if you win a fight, you just ganked the other guy. internet descriptions made by dark souls players dont matter.

Pretty much true. Ganking is such a loosely defined term that it mean almost nothing, at its best it describes an unfair fight. But as we all know fair fights are for suckers.

At least in the overwhelming majority of other games PvP and ganking is an opt-in experience.

The trials and tribulations of pissing off a Rogue in vanilla WoW. That's ganking. So is Souls.

[Chad "The King" ThunderCuck]

Publicado originalmente por Boss:

Publicado originalmente por Chad "The King" ThunderCuck:

actually, ganking is killing. so if you win a fight, you just ganked the other guy. internet descriptions made by dark souls players dont matter.

That's not what it means. MMOs/LoL where the majority of players are and the term sees regular use, gets priority on definition. It means an "unfair" attack; ie, Ambush.

People's personal definitions don't matter though, I can agree.

its literally a gang term from IRL that people try to use incorrectly in video games. ganking is killing.

[Boss]

Publicado originalmente por Chad "The King" ThunderCuck:

Publicado originalmente por Boss:

That's not what it means. MMOs/LoL where the majority of players are and the term sees regular use, gets priority on definition. It means an "unfair" attack; ie, Ambush.

People's personal definitions don't matter though, I can agree.

its literally a gang term from IRL that people try to use incorrectly in video games. ganking is killing.

They're not using it incorrectly. The majority of people that use it are going to be in the gaming area. You've probably heard the term 'rape' used in gaming as well. Do you think they mean the physical, sexual assault too?

[Mr. E Skull]

Publicado originalmente por Chad "The King" ThunderCuck:

Publicado originalmente por Boss:

That's not what it means. MMOs/LoL where the majority of players are and the term sees regular use, gets priority on definition. It means an "unfair" attack; ie, Ambush.

People's personal definitions don't matter though, I can agree.

its literally a gang term from IRL that people try to use incorrectly in video games. ganking is killing.

Well ♥♥♥♥, the more you know. I had no idea that's where it came from.

But language, especially in our modern day means next to nothing. Definitions change faster than pronouns.

[Chad "The King" ThunderCuck]

Publicado originalmente por Boss:

Publicado originalmente por Chad "The King" ThunderCuck:

its literally a gang term from IRL that people try to use incorrectly in video games. ganking is killing.

They're not using it incorrectly. The majority of people that use it are going to be in the gaming area. You've probably heard the term 'rape' used in gaming as well. Do you think they mean the physical, sexual assault too?

lol yes, they do indeed meen to say that they just sexually assualted your character. either way, dosent matter because like i said : internet slang means nothing when its based off IRL slang.

[Ferrum]

Publicado originalmente por ⭕TheSodaman:

That's one MMO I never got to play. Though hear* people recall times they were bullied almost endearingly with criminals saying, "Your GP or your HP".

It was one of the few games with a more toxic pvp system than the Soulsborne games. It was really only fun for me at the time because I was a terrible person who did terrible things and thought it was funny. I like to think I outgrew that, and probably wouldn't enjoy the murderous freedom of UO.