Why the hell the most OP buff spell for FAITH requires INTELLIGENCE? did they misscoded?

[Deviant]

What the actual f...i just got the GOLDEN ORDER PRINCIPIA book wich unlocks new FAITH spells and i unlocked Radagon's Rings of Light and Law of Regression one of these spells does dmg wich requires 31 INT and 31 FAITH okay i guess? but then the other spell wich heals all ailments and dispels all ailments requires 37 INTELLIGENCE on a spell wich assacioates with healing and buffs wich always assiociates with FAITH for some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reason requires INT did they literally misscoded this?

[Phoenix808]

lol this guy is so mad. low int in real life too it seems

[Hoki]

"int is just for dmg spells"
"faith is for support/buffs"

what about light and sunlight spear (or whatever their corresponding versions in ER are called)?

[sergantuss]

Deviant の投稿を引用：

What the actual f...i just got the GOLDEN ORDER PRINCIPIA book wich unlocks new FAITH spells and i unlocked Radagon's Rings of Light and Law of Regression one of these spells does dmg wich requires 31 INT and 31 FAITH okay i guess? but then the other spell wich heals all ailments and dispels all ailments requires 37 INTELLIGENCE on a spell wich assacioates with healing and buffs wich always assiociates with FAITH for some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reason requires INT did they literally misscoded this?

it was like this all the time.
you can go full *blue* magic and have every single tool that you want only lvl up your main stats but as faith user you ♥♥♥♥♥♥ so hard and forced to spend points on many extra options.

as *blue* magick user you can use your stuff as sword + big sword + super bow + rly heavy magic spells + normal magic spells that you can just use to spam.

faith not even close to like that.

this is why most of the ppl(you can even check the streamers that go for second playthrow) is all the time the full *blue mage* runs since its like walking in the park

[Grad]

Deviant の投稿を引用：

Caboose の投稿を引用：

It's like hex and Pyro in previous titles. Some had faith+int requirements. Just deal with it. Read the description usually it's more related when a spell have crossing requirement.

that spell does not have cross requiment...its only INT for a buff/debuff removal the other spell was mix of int/faith wich i guess makes sense becuz you still need faith for that spell and it sells from faith vendor but this spell only requires INT wich doesnt make any sense

Still not sure why you are complaining that High INT users get a cure all when a FTH user has access to similar spells at <20.

[SKN The LISPer]

Caramelpoptart の投稿を引用：

This has been a common thing in all souls games, It can be a pain when a spell that seems like it would just be one also has steep requirements for both, But this was starting in dark souls 1

I don't fully agree with OP, but this is just wrong completely. There is NO multiple requirement(or scaling) spells in dark SOuls 1. All Sorceries require and scale with Intelligence, and all Miracles require and scale with Faith. Pyromancy does not scale or require any stat(only scales with the pyromancy flame, a weapon).

Remedy(cure status effects) is a sorcery in this one.

Dark Souls 2: Same as 1 for the most part.
Sorcery - Int
Miracles - Faith
Pyromancy - No stat(but it scales with Fire Attack bonus, which 'is' affected by Int + Faith, so indirect scaling).
Hexes - Int + Faith.

Caressing Prayer(cure poison) is a miracle.

Dark Souls 3: Hexes was replaced and incoperated into both Sorcery and Miracles.
Miracles - Faith(exception is Dead Again, which has a minor Int requirement).
Caressing Tears(cure bleed) is a Miracle.

Sorcery - Int, No spell scales\require faith.

Pyromancy - int + Faith(direct requirement\scaling this time around).

Deviant の投稿を引用：

Try jumping の投稿を引用：

Int was always magic, while fth was always somekind of holy magic.

yeah and holy magic always assiocates with healing/buffs/debuff removal literally look up all dark souls series FAITH spells and what they do

While I do agree with your OP, it is most likely a bug(it's the only spell that has the "opposite" as a sole requirement, no sorcery has a faith-only requirement), it is a bit more likely it was meant for Faith, however what you say here is just straight up incorrect. Buffing and\or other Non-damage effects has ALWAYS been joined between all 3[4 in DS2] diciplines...

List of non-damage dealing spells pr Dark Souls game(does not include upgrades, like 'great heal' as it's redundant):

DS1:

Sorceries:

• Magic Weapon.
  
• Magic Shield.
  
• Hush.
  
• Fall Control.
  
• Hidden Body.
  
• Repair.
  
• Chameleon.
  
• Remedy.
  
• Resist Curse.

Pyromancy:

• Iron Flesh.
  
• Flash Sweat.

Miracles:

• Heal.
  
• Magic Barrier.
  
• Homeward.
  
• Seek Guidance.
  
• Karmic Justice.
  
• Vow of Silence.
  
• Tranquil walk of peace.
  
• Darkmmon blade.

DS2:

Sorceries:

• Shockwave(unlike the miracle force does not cause damage therefore included here)
  
• Magic Weapon.
  
• Magic Shield.
  
• Fall Control.
  
• Hush.
  
• Repair.
  
• Chameleon.
  
• Yearn.
  
• Cast Light.
  
• Unleash Magic.

Pyromancy:

• Iron Flesh.
  
• Flash Sweat.
  
• Warmth.

Miracles:

• Heal.
  
• Magic Barrier.
  
• Homeward.
  
• Guidance.
  
• Caressing Prayer.
  
• Magic Barrier.
  
• Sacred Oath.
  
• Unveil.
  
• Perserverance.
  
• Sunlight Blade.
  
• Denial.

Hexes:

• Dark Weapon.
  
• Repel.
  
• Twisted Barricade.
  
• Numbness.
  
• Resonant Flesh.
  
• Resonant Weapon.
  
• Profound Still.
  
• Promised Walk of Peace.

DS3:

Sorceries:

• Magic Weapon.
  
• Magic Shield.
  
• Spook.
  
• Aural Decoy.
  
• Cast Light.
  
• Repair.
  
• Hidden Weapon.
  
• Hidden Body.
  
• Chameleon.
  
• Twisted wall of light.
  
• Frozen Weapon.

Pyromancy:

• Flash Sweat.
  
• Profuse Sweat.
  
• Iron Flesh.
  
• Power Within.
  
• Carthus Becaon.
  
• Warmth.

Miracles:

• Heal.
  
• Caress Tears.
  
• Tears of Denial.
  
• Homeward.
  
• Seek guidance
  
• Sacred oath.
  
• Blessed Weapon.
  
• Darkmoon Blade.
  
• Magic Barrier.
  
• Vow of Silence.
  
• Dead Again.
  
• Atonement.
  
• Deep protection.

[Atech]

Actually interesting question would be, opposed to OPs low IQ rambling, that are starting/mid game/late game Sorceries and Faith spells that require both INT and Faith good justifying the requirements?

I know there is low lvl ghost flame thing Sorcery from Stormveil castle that fires homing spirits that does medium damage but seems to have extremely good tracking seeming to be payoff for INT/FAITH. Theres also more Ghostflame thing spells and then there are Golden Disc line Incantation thingys.

[Ginjii Raishin]

OP can't see the irony in his character being too low INT and him calling other people low IQ. Dumbass character and dumbass post lmao

[Kyutaru]

All Order spells are int/faith. Talk to the Order spell teacher in the table.

[Dragonirian]

Deviant の投稿を引用：

Fen'Haral の投稿を引用：

bro just respec and add some extra levels as you can, this games larger in scale so I think rune level soft caps going to be a lot higher

Dude you are literally so dumb its insane im not gonna respec 37 points into INT for a FAITH spell this is clearly a bug and a misscode my entire point of this thread is why the spell wich remove debuffs on you wich always assiociates with FAITH requires only INT its BUG do you get it??? it literally sells from FAITH vendor who teaches you FAITH spells

Previous games had int+faith spells those were called hexes. Everything is under "incantations" now, it means those spells are not for your build.

[Moth]

It's a spell related to Radagon and Radagon is clearly a mage or at least has ample affinity with magic, it makes perfect sense that such a potent spell requires both INT and FTH as it is most likely Radagon's fusion of Sorcery and Incantations to reach such a potent effect.

[Caramelpoptart]

SKN The LISPer の投稿を引用：

Caramelpoptart の投稿を引用：

This has been a common thing in all souls games, It can be a pain when a spell that seems like it would just be one also has steep requirements for both, But this was starting in dark souls 1

I don't fully agree with OP, but this is just wrong completely. There is NO multiple requirement(or scaling) spells in dark SOuls 1. All Sorceries require and scale with Intelligence, and all Miracles require and scale with Faith. Pyromancy does not scale or require any stat(only scales with the pyromancy flame, a weapon).

I should have specified, The idea of using intelligence for faith existed in dark souls 1 with Velkas Talisman which scaled off of intelligence. You are correct in that there are no spells that require both faith and int, my bad

[Deviant]

Atech の投稿を引用：

Actually interesting question would be, opposed to OPs low IQ rambling, that are starting/mid game/late game Sorceries and Faith spells that require both INT and Faith good justifying the requirements?

I know there is low lvl ghost flame thing Sorcery from Stormveil castle that fires homing spirits that does medium damage but seems to have extremely good tracking seeming to be payoff for INT/FAITH. Theres also more Ghostflame thing spells and then there are Golden Disc line Incantation thingys.

its funny when people who are dumb and has naturally low iq calling out other people for being dumb its just gold

[Call Sign: Raven]

Deviant の投稿を引用：

Atech の投稿を引用：

Actually interesting question would be, opposed to OPs low IQ rambling, that are starting/mid game/late game Sorceries and Faith spells that require both INT and Faith good justifying the requirements?

I know there is low lvl ghost flame thing Sorcery from Stormveil castle that fires homing spirits that does medium damage but seems to have extremely good tracking seeming to be payoff for INT/FAITH. Theres also more Ghostflame thing spells and then there are Golden Disc line Incantation thingys.

its funny when people who are dumb and has naturally low iq calling out other people for being dumb its just gold

What have you added other than insults?