Sellia crystal tunnel is outrageously ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[~𐍇𐌶𐌴𐌲𐌹𐍈~]

From its heavily armored boss that is only weak to magic damage, lack of a shortcut or stake to get to the boss quickly and the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ miner prawns that just spam physical needles at you that curve and go around walls over and over. What the ♥♥♥♥ was Fromsoft thinking? Like this entire cavern is just BLATANT trolling.

[Grad]

Huh? Those tall blue crystal bosses are pretty easy once you understand how they work.
You gotta break them, then they take a crapload of dmg. Don't worry about their hp bar at the start. Just get 10 or so good hits in and they should slowly begin to crack.

[Bill Waggoner]

Originally posted by Xzerio:

From its heavily armored boss that is only weak to magic damage, lack of a shortcut or stake to get to the boss quickly and the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ miner prawns that just spam physical needles at you that curve and go around walls over and over. What the ♥♥♥♥ was Fromsoft thinking? Like this entire cavern is just BLATANT trolling.

So, what now?

[Nerevar]

starfall beast is one of the worst dungeon bosses indeed. thankfully thats the only one you have to deal with in such a small space.

its size has to be reduced with a patch imo. too big for this small room. rest is fair game when size is reduced.

its worth defeating tough. you get a bell bearing for it and some high level upgrade stones.

but the boss isnt only weak to magic. i meleed it down just fine. blocking works really well againist most of its moves if you have a good shield. roomwide gravity attack is difficult to dodge as the timeing of the roll needs to be absolutly precise to avoid it. but its dmg isnt lethal and you can heal up afterwards.

the dungeon itself is fine. you just get tossed there via a super rare teleport chest trap.

also wtf happend to mimic chests ? why remove em...

instead we get these giant creepy ass hands.

[Enderspoons]

Two words: Strike damage.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by Grad:

Huh? Those tall blue crystal bosses are pretty easy once you understand how they work.
You gotta break them, then they take a crapload of dmg. Don't worry about their hp bar at the start. Just get 10 or so good hits in and they should slowly begin to crack.

he talks about starfall beast. different case than what you mean.

[⭕TheSodaman]

Originally posted by Xzerio:

From its heavily armored boss that is only weak to magic damage, lack of a shortcut or stake to get to the boss quickly and the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ miner prawns that just spam physical needles at you that curve and go around walls over and over. What the ♥♥♥♥ was Fromsoft thinking? Like this entire cavern is just BLATANT trolling.

I feel you. Quite a few other places at least have a clear run back to the boss or a respawn point nearby.

But this one, you have to deal with two fast enemies. And even if you finish off the first one, you may occasionally get a projectile or two in your back while climbing up the ladder. And then to top it off, it almost feels like the boss is breathing at you as you walk into that narrow room.

I think there is one Ash of War that can enchant your weapon to magic (Stormveil Castle hidden path). And if you were using a slashing weapon or piercing weapon, you might be in for a rough time based on the loading screen tips, e.g. strike vs. hardened enemies.

[~𐍇𐌶𐌴𐌲𐌹𐍈~]

Originally posted by Grad:

Huh? Those tall blue crystal bosses are pretty easy once you understand how they work.
You gotta break them, then they take a crapload of dmg. Don't worry about their hp bar at the start. Just get 10 or so good hits in and they should slowly begin to crack.

You don't seem to understand which part of the game I'm talking about

[Radaney]

If you used a teleport chest to get to that cave. You are underlevelled and shouldn't be there yet and From trolled you with the chest.

If you didn't. I agree I hate this cave. Have fun looking forward to facing lots of those annoying as centipede mobs later on.

[Clail]

Originally posted by Enderspoons:

Two words: Strike damage.

This. Became a lot easier when I switched over to the Mace.
The centipede guys will go down with one or two guard counter combos. If you run from them, you'll get spammed with needles. Close the distance.

[~𐍇𐌶𐌴𐌲𐌹𐍈~]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

starfall beast is one of the worst dungeon bosses indeed. thankfully thats the only one you have to deal with in such a small space.

its size has to be reduced with a patch imo. too big for this small room. rest is fair game when size is reduced.

its worth defeating tough. you get a bell bearing for it and some high level upgrade stones.

but the boss isnt only weak to magic. i meleed it down just fine. blocking works really well againist most of its moves if you have a good shield. roomwide gravity attack is difficult to dodge as the timeing of the roll needs to be absolutly precise to avoid it. but its dmg isnt lethal and you can heal up afterwards.

the dungeon itself is fine. you just get tossed there via a super rare teleport chest trap.

also wtf happend to mimic chests ? why remove em...

instead we get these giant creepy ass hands.

I didn't go there from the trap, I went to pick up the faith falisman and then thought the boss was worthing taking down for the sombering stones. I'm mostly just pissed about the miner prawns, those things should just be outright cut from the game, and the lack of a shortcut ofc.

[~𐍇𐌶𐌴𐌲𐌹𐍈~]

Originally posted by Xzerio:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

starfall beast is one of the worst dungeon bosses indeed. thankfully thats the only one you have to deal with in such a small space.

its size has to be reduced with a patch imo. too big for this small room. rest is fair game when size is reduced.

its worth defeating tough. you get a bell bearing for it and some high level upgrade stones.

but the boss isnt only weak to magic. i meleed it down just fine. blocking works really well againist most of its moves if you have a good shield. roomwide gravity attack is difficult to dodge as the timeing of the roll needs to be absolutly precise to avoid it. but its dmg isnt lethal and you can heal up afterwards.

the dungeon itself is fine. you just get tossed there via a super rare teleport chest trap.

also wtf happend to mimic chests ? why remove em...

instead we get these giant creepy ass hands.

I didn't go there from the trap, I went to pick up the faith falisman and then thought the boss was worthing taking down for the sombering stones. I'm mostly just pissed about the miner prawns, those things should just be outright cut from the game, and the lack of a shortcut ofc.

To further emphasize it made me think. Playing through the souls series players have always been awarded for being observant and though hard at first the games have always been somewhat fair, and while I have been adjusting my playstyle to fit how aggressive the enemies are in this game, seeing a miner prawn shoot missles at me every second for 30 seconds in a row as I sit behind a wall in disbelief made me realize that fromsoft just doesn't care anymore. They don't care about making their games fair.

[Nerevar]

if all else fails : spam hoarfrost stomp ashes of war with any weapon. you win. perfect. this works on any build.

[Ferrous Oxide]

Blunt weapons work really well on him, since im a dex build I always switch to flails any time I have to fight stone enemies like that. I do agree that he is way too big for his tiny arena, but I didn't have problems with any of the other enemies in the area.

[Cookie]

Centipede guys in 1st room are watchers there, if don't disturb miners you are good to go, as long you not too close.
Learned it hard way.

[Lifter]

Originally posted by Xzerio:

To further emphasize it made me think. Playing through the souls series players have always been awarded for being observant and though hard at first the games have always been somewhat fair, and while I have been adjusting my playstyle to fit how aggressive the enemies are in this game, seeing a miner prawn shoot missles at me every second for 30 seconds in a row as I sit behind a wall in disbelief made me realize that fromsoft just doesn't care anymore. They don't care about making their games fair.

I noticed that in the academy when you aggro a few mages and go around a corner they spam their pebbles for at least 30 seconds. I´m really not a fan of targeting through walls. Same as pivoting heavy attacks mid animation. That´s what I like about Nioh better, most enemies adhear to the same rules as you. Running out of stamina, targeting and commiting to an attack. But most people seem to like it so I´m not gonna try to argue their fun away.