The last "souls" game?

[Shibby]

So do you think this will be the end of this type of game that Fromsoft makes? They have put out 7 of these games in 11 years. I would like to see if they can do something else instead of giving us the sameish thing with the majority of them. 5 of the 7 are very similar in tone and gameplay.

I would love it if each entry was like Bloodborne and Sekiro where they throw out things and add new things instead of giving people what they know. While I am enjoying Elden RIng a lot of it feels like I have been here before. The open world isn't that interesting to me outside of how good the areas can look.

It's cool if they keep going but part of me wonders if they could put out another genre busting game if they were given the chance to. IDK if Namco is pushing for more or only Souls games from them which could be a factor in this. I mean Sekiro wasn't published by Namco and was a totally different style of play and Bloodborne was published by Sony. So maybe they need a publisher who wants something new and will give them the money and time to make it.

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

I surely hope not. I have been a fan of FROMSOFT through Dark Souls 1, 2, 3, and Sekiro - now Elden Ring as well - for more than a decade. I love these kinds of games, and while I'm okay with them mixing up their formula - I want the core gameplay pillars of exploration, difficult encounters, and so on to remain in the games I play by them.

That means games that continue to improve upon their past successes, as their games have tended to do. Elden Ring basically implements everything that is great about Dark Souls with an amazingly fun world to explore and additional good mechanics for combat and crafting that make it even better. I want them to continue to evolve their future games, rather than try something so drastically different that it becomes totally unrecognizeable.

Some people hated Sekiro for example, but it has all of the Souls DNA I love. Extremely great ambience and exploration to keep you immersed, very difficult and exciting to defeat bosses and encounters, and so on. All Sekiro really lacked was the build variety, but the core combat was good enough I forgave that.

[NeoMasamune]

The games sell well, and players love them. I can't see them stopping any time soon.

That being said, I hope that they still release other titles from time to time. I've been waiting for a new Armoured Core for a long time.

[Voncrow]

Originally posted by Shibby:

RIght and I said that 5 of the 7 souls games are very similar to each other in tone and gameplay. And in the second paragraph I said I would like them to make each new entry something unique like the 2 outliers. I know Fromsoft has made other games as we were talking about Armored Core. I feel like they don't get to use their creativity nearly as much when saddled with the idea of it being a "souls" game. Elden RIng has way more Dark Souls influence in the world than it does unique elements.

In other words I want them to forgot about Dark Souls and just make new and unique worlds.

Never played Bloodborne because not on PC nor Sekiro because I like choosing my weapon, so I don't know exactly what makes them so different that you like. I'd guess I'd have to ask how one product is more creative than the other because I don't see it. I think all of the souls games I played, and certainly Elden Ring, have plenty of creativity in them.

[Shibby]

Originally posted by Ponky:

Hmm, okay I will be 100% honest I'm not on board with them "forgetting" Dark Souls, Shibby. It is their creative decision in the long run, I have no say and I never will. New titles, old titles, I'm am absolutely on board but eh on that one

I guess I should say I am tired of seeing things that are so similar and just have different names. All the weapons and armor in Bloodborne were new and unique. Whereas in Elden Ring you can see that there are things we have had before. I mean they couldn't even change up how the healing works in this one it's the same as it was in the souls games. That is the kind of stuff I mean when I say I wish they would forget about the souls games. You all seem to think I want them to forget what makes a souls game. Bloodborne is a souls game in that it is punishing but fair. It isn't a souls game because it's not just reusing old ideas in a new coat of paint.

I am wanting new experiences not the same thing again. And the open world is not nearly as interesting outside of how good it looks IMO. The bosses you find in the open world are easier after a couple hours of grinding and the mobs are easily manipulated to pull them one by one if you really want to.

Originally posted by Donna White:

Originally posted by Shibby:

RIght and I said that 5 of the 7 souls games are very similar to each other in tone and gameplay. And in the second paragraph I said I would like them to make each new entry something unique like the 2 outliers. I know Fromsoft has made other games as we were talking about Armored Core. I feel like they don't get to use their creativity nearly as much when saddled with the idea of it being a "souls" game. Elden RIng has way more Dark Souls influence in the world than it does unique elements.

In other words I want them to forgot about Dark Souls and just make new and unique worlds.

Never played Bloodborne because not on PC nor Sekiro because I like choosing my weapon, so I don't know exactly what makes them so different that you like. I'd guess I'd have to ask how one product is more creative than the other because I don't see it. I think all of the souls games I played, and certainly Elden Ring, have plenty of creativity in them.

Bloodborne didn't have any weapons from souls in it. The only exception was the Holy Moonlight Sword which Fromsoft has used as an easter egg of sorts in a bunch of their games. I liked the change because I had to relearn how to play a souls game with Bloodborne. You can't turtle behind a shield and the parry timing with the pistol was something new as well and was limited to how many bullets you had left. It's like they "forgot" about Dark Souls and made an entirely new world that wasn't hampered with the burden of "Well we should use this again". I wish Bloodborne would come to PC and get a 60fps patch at the least. That is what I mean when I say they should forget about "Dark Souls". I don't think anyone can argue that Bloodborne is not the experience we are expecting from the devs.

[Msooby]

Well there has been no announcement or hint for another souls game, but Demon Souls and Bloodborne still need to be ported over to PC, so there's that

[Norm Macdonald's Ghost]

Originally posted by Elfezen:

Well there has been no announcement or hint for another souls game, but Demon Souls and Bloodborne still need to be ported over to PC, so there's that

Stop playing with corpses. Have respect for the dead.

[1100011]

Henry Ford: If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.

We wanted another Dark Souls, they gave us Bloodborne. Hope they never lose that spirit of innovation!