Golden Summon Sign

[Lenox]

Are encounters tuned to have these be used or are these only in case the player needs help?

I didn't use them in Dark Souls 1 and didn't play other Souls games, where this may have changed.

Trying to not mess up my first playthrough.

[Fast Pooper]

They actually make it harder. The boss gets more health unless the guy u summon is well-tuned build they will probably do less damage than you would by yourself per minute. You can get pretty high combo damage though on poise breaks when three people are wailing on a boss.

[Lenox]

Originally posted by Fast Pooper:

They actually make it harder. The boss gets more health unless the guy u summon is well-tuned build they will probably do less damage than you would by yourself per minute. You can get pretty high combo damage though on poise breaks when three people are wailing on a boss.

Interesting perspective that it makes it harder. On the boss I'm talking about, I only got it to about half health on my own after multiple tries. And on most tries I did much worse than that. But on the first try with the summoned entity, I got the boss down to 25%. Then I purposefully killed myself.

To be clear, I'm happy about the difficulty. But because I've purposefully not read or watched a lot of Elden Ring stuff, I'm not sure what's intended by the developers. I know someone will post that I can do whatever I want. But I'd still like to know.

[FireAgain]

Depends on the boss and your own build. Trying to burn through a boss with spells/consumables actually nerfs you if you take a companion because the hp is so buffed that you don't kill it fast enough before you run out of resources. But if you have a solid melee build that pumps damage but you suck at dodging, it can be a huge help.

Only talking about NPC summons, ofc.

[Darx]

most of the time you dont need burst just somebody to keep the boss busy/away from you

[Lenox]

Originally posted by FireAgain:

Depends on the boss and your own build. Trying to burn through a boss with spells/consumables actually nerfs you if you take a companion because the hp is so buffed that you don't kill it fast enough before you run out of resources. But if you have a solid melee build that pumps damage but you suck at dodging, it can be a huge help.

Only talking about NPC summons, ofc.

This is me. Just a melee guy rn. Just replace solid damage with average damage.

Is not taking the summon dumb? My choices right now are to take the summon or come back later.

And I switched it to offline mode for now, so I'm talking about NPC summons as well.

Originally posted by Darx:

most of the time you dont need burst just somebody to keep the boss busy/away from you

Exactly. The summon did so well at diverting attention that the fight felt very different.

[Call Sign: Raven]

All souls games increase the boss’ power/HP when you summon a player/NPC. The trade off is that the boss will spread out its aggro, instead of focusing on you.

[Lenox]

Originally posted by Harrison Ford:

All souls games increase the boss’ power/HP when you summon a player/NPC. The trade off is that the boss will spread out its aggro, instead of focusing on you.

Cool. Thanks. Are you using them?

[Call Sign: Raven]

Originally posted by Lenox:

Originally posted by Harrison Ford:

All souls games increase the boss’ power/HP when you summon a player/NPC. The trade off is that the boss will spread out its aggro, instead of focusing on you.

Cool. Thanks. Are you using them?

I'm going to buy the game today to test it out on my machine. I typically don't use summons, because I enjoy the challenge.

[Lenox]

Originally posted by Harrison Ford:

Originally posted by Lenox:

Cool. Thanks. Are you using them?

I'm going to buy the game today to test it out on my machine. I typically don't use summons, because I enjoy the challenge.

Oh, awesome. If you remember, I'd like to know how your first golden summon sign encounter goes. For now, I've chosen to come back later for the same reason. But I also didn't want to miss lore or dialogue afterwards by interacting with that NPC, y'know?