(Not so much) Noob who started again - what have I learned?

[UncivilS3rvant]

OK, I started as a warrior and in my first two hours got killed more than 20 times as didn't have any ranged attack and not quite used to the dance of CQC.

I was also unable to level up due to my not understanding how it worked that well and also my dying.

Started again, this time as a prisoner as a bit of googling led me to discover they started with the magic dagger and that meant I could try a mix of ranged and close combat.

Much more success.

So what have I learned today (first in possibly a long series of lessons)?

I learned to keep an eye on the amount of runes I need to level up and also the rune count in the bottom left corner. I've been farming runes around the first camp and may continue until I actually kill the Captain or what I assume is the Captain. I've now levelled up twice.

I notice that that enemies regenerate once you rest at a Grace point, so sneaking about and whittling the guards down in this location is a good way to pick up enough runes to level up at this point.

The only downside is if I get killed at the far side of the camp, as I did when attacking the Captain, my first task is to recover the lost runes so they'er not lost forever if I die before picking them up.

Baby steps, but that is what I feel this game is all about...

[River]

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To open the door, remove all of your gear. weapons, armor, all of it.

That said, do NOT do that unless you want the ending that comes with it. You can reverse it, but it's a tough one.

Edit: The merchant's story is a good one. I wish they had kept Kale's questline in the game.

Re, edit: it's a shame there's no dialogue here but I guess the devs figured that if you found the merchant set that it alone would be enough.

This is worth checking out if you'd like to see what the Devs had in mind for Kale. I really wish they had kept this.

https://youtu.be/0Cljs4UTdT8

[UncivilS3rvant]

So I was stuck by the Frenzied Flame Proscription SoG until I remembered you could roll against the walls as well as hit them, which opened a doorway with a chest containing a Rune Arc. Deciding that there appears to be a rhythm to the map design, I jumped on/over the chest and that opened another doorway.

Going through this doorway took me to the Deeproot Depths via a series of tree roots and some ants. I found this similar to the design for the Haligtree, where I needed to traverse a similar path to pick up all the loot left at various levels, although once more there were a couple I couldn't work out how to get to.

Part way down I noticed what looked like a cave opening, and the path to it looked clear from the Great Waterfall Crest SoG, so I fast-travelled back and went exploring, and I'm glad I did as it was full of ants and a number of Queen ants, which is odd as I would have thought there'd only be one, but hey...who's complaining? A quick google also shows that ant colonies can have more than one Queen to ensure it survives the first year, so I learnt something new today...

Anyhow, they weren't difficult in the slightest and therefore I was quite surprised to gain 5 Numen runes and another 5 Rune Arcs. Was the scale of that reward due to the fact it was hidden? Oh, and at the exit of that cave was the Elden Stars incantation, which looks great but needs 50 faith, so won't be using that for a while unless I do some rune farming...

Made it to the bottom finally and after wandering through and dispatching more ants, I came across the Deeproot Depths SoG and a finger crone who was bemoaning the fate of someone who I am assuming was her love at one point. Maybe I'll find him and kill him down here.

A bit more wandering and I found a map, so that seemed as good a place as any to call it a day for now...

[UncivilS3rvant]

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OK, sounds like a bad idea.

Re, edit: it's a shame there's no dialogue here but I guess the devs figured that if you found the merchant set that it alone would be enough.

I mean, it's my favorite ending for the game, and how you reverse it is also really cool, albeit some tough fights. So I wouldn't say it's bad, but if you were going for a specific ending I didn't want you to get locked out of it. :praisesun:

I'm not after any specific ending as I don't play like that, my view is that any decisions I make that have an impact on the ending should be embraced even if they are the 'wrong' ones.

That said, if this ends the game prematurely by avoiding the fight with the Elden Beast that many have alluded to, then it's not where I want to go.

[River]

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I mean, it's my favorite ending for the game, and how you reverse it is also really cool, albeit some tough fights. So I wouldn't say it's bad, but if you were going for a specific ending I didn't want you to get locked out of it.

I'm not after any specific ending as I don't play like that, my view is that any decisions I make that have an impact on the ending should be embraced even if they are the 'wrong' ones.

That said, if this ends the game prematurely by avoiding the fight with the Elden Beast that many have alluded to, then it's not where I want to go.

No, you'll still fight EB. That doesn't change.

[UncivilS3rvant]

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No, you'll still fight EB. That doesn't change.

OK, I may just do this then...

[River]

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No, you'll still fight EB. That doesn't change.

OK, I may just do this then...

Is Leyndell ash?

I can't remember if you're that far along in the main story. If it is, then you'll have to do it on another run.

If it's not, then awesome! Because that is my favorite ending.

[UncivilS3rvant]

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OK, I may just do this then...

Is Leyndell ash?

I can't remember if you're that far along in the main story. If it is, then you'll have to do it on another run.

If it's not, then awesome! Because that is my favorite ending.

Yep, it is...ah, well...

[River]

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Is Leyndell ash?

I can't remember if you're that far along in the main story. If it is, then you'll have to do it on another run.

If it's not, then awesome! Because that is my favorite ending.

Yep, it is...ah, well...

There's always NG+

[UncivilS3rvant]

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Secret boss fight in Farum Azula: Go back to the sight of grace that you were at when trying to get to the Maliketh fight (not the new one that spawns after beating him), and go back downstairs. You can run past the enemies that are in the room with the shallow water, and then go outside and immediately keep going straight for the cliff's edge. You will see some rocks below which you can land on, and they'll lead you towards a low part of the map near the great tornado. There you will find the secret boss fight. This one is really worth doing, it's not some minor boss battle; it has a great reward and the fight itself is really cool.

Found the route down and got to the broken platforms, but there's nothing there. Can't see a way to move left or right as the gap between platforms seems to large to jump it.

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And there is a secret to be found in the ash covered capital: One of the best talismans in the game is near the lift to the mountains, if you go there starting from the site of grace in the ash covered capital. I will also say that it is likely the most difficult talisman to acquire too, but I won't spoil why here. :D

Can't find this. Started at the Leyndell SoG but unable to find a route out of the immediate area as it just seems completely enclosed, parapets slightly too high to jump over.

Decided to have a crack from the Forbidden Land SoG and accidently found a Night Cavalry, which I'd clearly missed on my first run-through. Also found a secret room in the lift between the two areas that I'd initially missed as obviously looking in the wrong direction, so that wasn't an entirely wasted effort...

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Secret boss fight in Farum Azula: Go back to the sight of grace that you were at when trying to get to the Maliketh fight (not the new one that spawns after beating him), and go back downstairs. You can run past the enemies that are in the room with the shallow water, and then go outside and immediately keep going straight for the cliff's edge. You will see some rocks below which you can land on, and they'll lead you towards a low part of the map near the great tornado. There you will find the secret boss fight. This one is really worth doing, it's not some minor boss battle; it has a great reward and the fight itself is really cool.

Found the route down and got to the broken platforms, but there's nothing there. Can't see a way to move left or right as the gap between platforms seems to large to jump it.

There should be a part of the floor that you can interact with. Check that area again carefully. You will not have to jump to try and reach those platforms because like you said they are out of reach. There is something down there though, look for a dug out part of the floor and you should get a prompt to interact with it.

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And there is a secret to be found in the ash covered capital: One of the best talismans in the game is near the lift to the mountains, if you go there starting from the site of grace in the ash covered capital. I will also say that it is likely the most difficult talisman to acquire too, but I won't spoil why here. :D

Can't find this. Started at the Leyndell SoG but unable to find a route out of the immediate area as it just seems completely enclosed, parapets slightly too high to jump over.

Decided to have a crack from the Forbidden Land SoG and accidently found a Night Cavalry, which I'd clearly missed on my first run-through. Also found a secret room in the lift between the two areas that I'd initially missed as obviously looking in the wrong direction, so that wasn't an entirely wasted effort...

My mistake, it's been a while since I played last. You have to start at the SoG at the Forbidden Lands, and then take the two lifts back to the Capital from that side. Sorry. After you get off the second lift into the capital itself, there will be a large open area in front/left of where you get off the lift. The talisman is there on top of a branch coming out of the ground in that open area. I recommend running for it as it is... very well guarded. :D

[River]

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I recommend running for it as it is... very well guarded. :D

He's rocking the Blasphemous Blade, he should be able to Taker's Flame his way to a win.

[UncivilS3rvant]

Ooh, just noticed I have this achievement:

Legendary Sorceries and Incantations
Acquired all legendary sorceries and incantations
14.8%

This must have popped when I got the Elden Stars incantation, but I'm quite chuffed with that one...

[UncivilS3rvant]

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There should be a part of the floor that you can interact with. Check that area again carefully. You will not have to jump to try and reach those platforms because like you said they are out of reach. There is something down there though, look for a dug out part of the floor and you should get a prompt to interact with it.

Found it, turned out I was a bit tired and needed a bit of a lie down. One of the more impressive cut scenes now and a tad arty as it went black and white, as all those broken bits came together to form an arena whilst I snoozed.

I awake to find a hibernating dragon poised in mid air and it turned out to be called Dragonlord Placidusax. I died half a dozen times and nothing that either Tiche or me are doing seems to have that much of an effect.

I've managed to get Placidusax down to about half HP before it vanishes and then swoops in for a quick two hit that just wipes me out.

So that's my adventure for tonight...

[UncivilS3rvant]

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My mistake, it's been a while since I played last. You have to start at the SoG at the Forbidden Lands, and then take the two lifts back to the Capital from that side. Sorry. After you get off the second lift into the capital itself, there will be a large open area in front/left of where you get off the lift. The talisman is there on top of a branch coming out of the ground in that open area. I recommend running for it as it is... very well guarded. :D

Got there and found it. I could see an ulcerated tree spirit prowling around, so I ran around the edge of the courtyard and managed to grab Erdtree +2 before I was attacked. Was doing OK against the tree spirit, but then the rest of his gang turned up and hemmed me in, taking my HP quite fast.

Probably won't go back there again, unless someone tells me there's something else worth heading there for...