No black people hair

[Jordamine]

Another game without the option QQ why does it always seem like a big ask?

A fade would be nice at least

[Last Jackdaw]

I seem to recall weeks of rage andassive racist threads when RUST did that change.

[GroovyHobo]

Originally posted by Decidedly Uncouth:

Originally posted by GroovyBum:

I could argue that your bottom barrel quality arguments are just rationalizations too as well. But I don't because I have more class.

So you are an elitist and a classist? Thanks for clearing that up.

No elitists are the ones pushing critical race theory upon plebs like us because we are nasty redneck hicks in their view.

[Lenox]

Originally posted by Decidedly Uncouth:

I can't wait till they push "African-American Vernacular English" into voice personality choice. "Aye, yo, like, dead ass I be finna ride on dem dragons an done do it on em'. Yo, real ♥♥♥♥, ya feel me, bruh, no cap, dey dun my hood dirty bruh"

Fun times ahead.

Sadly enough, this has kind of already been done. Black characters back in the day used to often have this as the default. Sigh.

[Richard For Ponies]

Originally posted by Punished Jeremy:

Originally posted by Richard For Ponies:

The other thing is, people forget, these games don't take place 'on earth', for all you know this universe doesn't 'have' 'black hair', maybe everyone is 'more' inclusive in having the same hair xD

Nevermind, that you're talking 'inclusivity' in the sense of imposing 'your version' of inclusivity on 'another universe' basically... Do you have any idea how bigoted it is to tell a developer that they should've made their world with 'your' ideas in mind?

Seriously, how about 'you' all learn to live with and accept other people's differences... and of course, remember the 'definition' of racism, it's not 'whatever you decide is convenient to call racist'. Stop babbling about nontroversy and live your damn lives!

I always thought racism was defined as discriminating based on race, which means everyone who isnt blind is technically racist, which means the only reasonable solution would be to focus on whats actionable and not whats in peoples heads

That's as 'vague and broad' as some people would like it to be, so they can have every excuse to cry racism and get their piece of the 'free ♥♥♥♥ pie' that the politicians 'using' race for votes are offering. XD
[Since some people, not you neccesarily, are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid and will prove me right by 'interpreting' into my words their own meaning that leads to claiming there is no racism and black people are just out for free ♥♥♥♥... Racism 'exists', and there are legitimately oppressed people out there, based on all kinds of criteria including race, and in 'reality land' it's possible for 'some' members of a particular category to be exploiting an obvious 'do as we order and get rewarded' system, while others may have legitimate claims]

Now then XD

The definition of racism, as currently worded on google XD

Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to inherited attributes and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another. It may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity.

Whatever word-soup they change it to, Racism requires intent, if you do not carry the belief or intent around racial superiority, or some'thing' doesn't involve this intent, then it's not racist, it's just a stereotype XD

Acknowledging differences between races, is not 'racist', It's acknowledging stereotypes.

It 'becomes' racist if you flavor it with, say, 'black hair is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ than white hair' or something stupid like that, and even then that's some pretty milk toast racism XD

The problem comes when people are allowed to 'insert into you' racism that isn't there, because they chose to interpret something you said as racist, or quite literally 'You're racist and you just don't know it, but I can see it, take my word for it, you're racist' kind of idiocy where people pretend to know your mind better than you do.

Racism required Intent, without a deliberate racial inferiority/superiority element, it's not racist.

[Richard For Ponies]

Originally posted by Punished Jeremy:

As a side note, and so it's not clustered in my rambling, apologies for the wall of word XD I'm just kinda passionate about explaining actual definitions vs 'politically convenient misdefinitions' like people have been doing.

[1337Dude]

"Racism" is a boogieman conspiracy theory. You think From Software met up in a dark, shadowy room somewhere and secretly decided to hate black people? Get real.

[Punished Jeremy]

Originally posted by Last Jackdaw:

I seem to recall weeks of rage andassive racist threads when RUST did that change.

You know what the solution is? No humans. Everyone is a freaky alien

[Captain Wolf]

Originally posted by Punished Jeremy:

Originally posted by Richard For Ponies:

The other thing is, people forget, these games don't take place 'on earth', for all you know this universe doesn't 'have' 'black hair', maybe everyone is 'more' inclusive in having the same hair xD

Nevermind, that you're talking 'inclusivity' in the sense of imposing 'your version' of inclusivity on 'another universe' basically... Do you have any idea how bigoted it is to tell a developer that they should've made their world with 'your' ideas in mind?

Seriously, how about 'you' all learn to live with and accept other people's differences... and of course, remember the 'definition' of racism, it's not 'whatever you decide is convenient to call racist'. Stop babbling about nontroversy and live your damn lives!

I always thought racism was defined as discriminating based on race, which means everyone who isnt blind is technically racist, which means the only reasonable solution would be to focus on whats actionable and not whats in peoples heads

Stricly speaking, racisim has to do with the belief that one's race is superior. It can or cannot incluide discrimination.

And since blindness is not a race, you supposition is incorect for a couple of reasons.

[warmy bear]

Originally posted by Richard For Ponies:

Originally posted by Punished Jeremy:

I always thought racism was defined as discriminating based on race, which means everyone who isnt blind is technically racist, which means the only reasonable solution would be to focus on whats actionable and not whats in peoples heads

That's as 'vague and broad' as some people would like it to be, so they can have every excuse to cry racism and get their piece of the 'free ♥♥♥♥ pie' that the politicians 'using' race for votes are offering. XD
[Since some people, not you neccesarily, are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid and will prove me right by 'interpreting' into my words their own meaning that leads to claiming there is no racism and black people are just out for free ♥♥♥♥... Racism 'exists', and there are legitimately oppressed people out there, based on all kinds of criteria including race, and in 'reality land' it's possible for 'some' members of a particular category to be exploiting an obvious 'do as we order and get rewarded' system, while others may have legitimate claims]

Now then XD

The definition of racism, as currently worded on google XD

Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to inherited attributes and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another. It may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity.

Whatever word-soup they change it to, Racism requires intent, if you do not carry the belief or intent around racial superiority, or some'thing' doesn't involve this intent, then it's not racist, it's just a stereotype XD

Acknowledging differences between races, is not 'racist', It's acknowledging stereotypes.

It 'becomes' racist if you flavor it with, say, 'black hair is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ than white hair' or something stupid like that, and even then that's some pretty milk toast racism XD

The problem comes when people are allowed to 'insert into you' racism that isn't there, because they chose to interpret something you said as racist, or quite literally 'You're racist and you just don't know it, but I can see it, take my word for it, you're racist' kind of idiocy where people pretend to know your mind better than you do.

Racism required Intent, without a deliberate racial inferiority/superiority element, it's not racist.

that's literally not how bias works (not even racial bias). like if we met in person irl & had a chat one of us could be a ♥♥♥♥ without overtly meaning to. no one's asking anyone to walk on eggshells, but there's also the trouble discussing it with there being an american view on race (see the Whoopi Goldberg Holocaust thing recently) vs how most of the rest of the world sees thing : /

[warmy bear]

Originally posted by GroovyBum:

Originally posted by Decidedly Uncouth:

So you are an elitist and a classist? Thanks for clearing that up.

No elitists are the ones pushing critical race theory upon plebs like us because we are nasty redneck hicks in their view.

wtf do people say critical race theory like teaching kids "hey, do you know what the american civil war was fought over?" or "do you know what the british empire did in India & China?" like teaching people historical fact is a bad thing, no one's teaching hate - if I see a movie and hate it, it's probably because i think it's garbage, or gross/ly offensive (i mean i'm kinda squeamish over blood because of my parents job but you do you on horror lol).

[GroovyHobo]

Originally posted by Warmy Bear:

Originally posted by GroovyBum:

No elitists are the ones pushing critical race theory upon plebs like us because we are nasty redneck hicks in their view.

wtf do people say critical race theory like teaching kids "hey, do you know what the american civil war was fought over?" or "do you know what the british empire did in India & China?" like teaching people historical fact is a bad thing, no one's teaching hate - if I see a movie and hate it, it's probably because i think it's garbage, or gross/ly offensive (i mean i'm kinda squeamish over blood because of my parents job but you do you on horror lol).

None of those things have to do with critical race theory and they have been taught in schools for eons and continue to be taught. CRT has nothing to do with this. Fool.

[Punished Jeremy]

Originally posted by Richard For Ponies:

Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to inherited attributes and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another.

That a little specific in that its race realism. I dont know why the definition of racism would depend on behavioral traits. I guess it just goes to show that most people still misunderstand race

Originally posted by Richard For Ponies:

It may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity.

Thats more accurate, although to my earlier point about everyone being racist, i think to a certain degree thats fine. I think its fine that everyone is racist in that we see race. If you see it, you discriminate against it. If you arent verbally pointing out skin color you at least are doing it passively in memory. Obviously thats fine. And its also fine to have prejudices against sterotypes to an extent so long as you understand that a sterotype doesnt make up the whole group. Its not like we arent perfectly happy having sterotypes that arent racial after all

Originally posted by Richard For Ponies:

Whatever word-soup they change it to, Racism requires intent, if you do not carry the belief or intent around racial superiority, or some'thing' doesn't involve this intent, then it's not racist, it's just a stereotype XD

Acknowledging differences between races, is not 'racist', It's acknowledging stereotypes.

Pretty much

Originally posted by Richard For Ponies:

The problem comes when people are allowed to 'insert into you' racism that isn't there, because they chose to interpret something you said as racist, or quite literally 'You're racist and you just don't know it, but I can see it, take my word for it, you're racist' kind of idiocy where people pretend to know your mind better than you do.

Because the people preaching anti racism are just as racist, they are just projecting. They are using racist ideas defensively. And most of them dont realize it

Originally posted by Richard For Ponies:

Racism required Intent, without a deliberate racial inferiority/superiority element, it's not racist.

Everything is a dog whistle to some people

[Spazmaloid]

you could make some cool black characters in DS2 but since then it has been ♥♥♥♥

[Punished Jeremy]

Originally posted by Captain Wolf:

Originally posted by Punished Jeremy:

I always thought racism was defined as discriminating based on race, which means everyone who isnt blind is technically racist, which means the only reasonable solution would be to focus on whats actionable and not whats in peoples heads

Stricly speaking, racisim has to do with the belief that one's race is superior. It can or cannot incluide discrimination.

And since blindness is not a race, you supposition is incorect for a couple of reasons.

What the ♥♥♥♥ do you mean blindness being a race? If a blind person cant tell what race someone is then they cant be racist. Racism requires you to identify visual differences between people. Even small differences between caucasians

Unless you are Clayton Bigbsy. That was a funny sketch

[Punished Jeremy]

Originally posted by Warmy Bear:

Originally posted by GroovyBum:

No elitists are the ones pushing critical race theory upon plebs like us because we are nasty redneck hicks in their view.

wtf do people say critical race theory like teaching kids "hey, do you know what the american civil war was fought over?" or "do you know what the british empire did in India & China?" like teaching people historical fact is a bad thing, no one's teaching hate - if I see a movie and hate it, it's probably because i think it's garbage, or gross/ly offensive (i mean i'm kinda squeamish over blood because of my parents job but you do you on horror lol).

This is a misinformed strawman

The civil war and british colonialism has been taught in american schools for many years. Thats not and has never been critical race theory. crt is not history, its race marxism