Why or why aren't you going Wretch?

[Lenox]

I'm struggling to decide myself. I like the early-game feel of scrounging around for loot.

[NiflRav]

Originally posted by Roy:

I want to play a high STR + END build like I do in every Souls game.
So I was interested in both the Wretch and Hero classes.
However, by examining them both and calculating the Wretch at lv 7 (Hero starting lv) I learned that the Wretch is NOT optimal, the hero is a better pick for me.

It also might be true for every other build.

I think that the Wretch isn't for people who want to maximize their build, it's for getting a different type of experience for the first couple of hours in the game.

There is 100% havel's armor in the game somewhere)

[Kaffeepause]

A Wretch doesn't really offer you any stat benefits even when starting on SL1 and having all stats at 10. You will always be at least 5 stats behind other classes, in which I could also play as a Hero to build a strength character, while unequipping everything off to have the same starting condition as the Wretch, but with better stat distribution.

[AceInYourHole]

Was tempted by confessor but the wretch experience is going to be even better in this game due to it being completely open, unlike the linear loot progression of previous souls games, in elden ring you can branch off in any direction and your equipment could be different from some other dirty, smelly wretch's that you might invade/co-op with.

Plus your first playthrough should be for testing different spells/weapons and wretch is the best class for that. Min/maxing is for subsequent playthroughs when you know what build you like.

[Powered By Decaf]

I'm goin wretch for sure. I love the feeling of every piece of loot being of value (in the start). Starting with some beast kit and ignoring most weapon/armor drops is sad for me.

[Punished Jeremy]

Im going wretch because in past souls game ive noticed that the starter equipment is pretty damn good and it causes you to ignore a lot of early pick ups

Id rather progress and find those sets in the map, and then pick the other classes when i want to commit to a specific build

[XDeathxReconX]

I never really thought of it that way, I always got frustrated by the fact that all the armor I find is useless as my starting armor is better statistically and cosmetically. I'll find 3 or 4 sets I really like the looks of but the stats still suck so I'm stuck wearing the same thing from when I started for quite some time, like lvl30-40 before I just take the loss And put something else on. Any dropped armor 9 times out of 10 are just trash I have no idea why it existed, though that does it a new perspective on it, I'll have to think about that

[Dragonirian]

Wretch is sub-optimal for min-maxing, BUT my first playtrough will be based on aesthetics.

[Loop_Stratos]

No because clubs are against my personal sense of aesthetics, I will switch to the nearest twinblade asap, and I will start as a Samurai but I don't like the old japanese aesthetic anyway so I'll likely change. I might actually strip my armor because part of me wants to go Wretch if the starting weapon wasn't a club and some of the stats were not put into the magic stats. But I also don't like staring at a naked man so idk.

[Wubbinz]

Originally posted by Loop_Stratos:

No because clubs are against my personal sense of aesthetics, I will switch to the nearest twinblade asap, and I will start as a Samurai but I don't like the old japanese aesthetic anyway so I'll likely change. I might actually strip my armor because part of me wants to go Wretch if the starting weapon wasn't a club and some of the stats were not put into the magic stats. But I also don't like staring at a naked man so idk.

Bonk stick hater.

[Darx]

Originally posted by Lenox:

I'm struggling to decide myself. I like the early-game feel of scrounging around for loot.

nah. first i play mage. then i might start a wretch melee round

[Loop_Stratos]

Originally posted by Paton:

Originally posted by Loop_Stratos:

No because clubs are against my personal sense of aesthetics, I will switch to the nearest twinblade asap, and I will start as a Samurai but I don't like the old japanese aesthetic anyway so I'll likely change. I might actually strip my armor because part of me wants to go Wretch if the starting weapon wasn't a club and some of the stats were not put into the magic stats. But I also don't like staring at a naked man so idk.

Bonk stick hater.

I'll probably get called out for this but I don't like how most STR weapons look lol, although I also don't like pure DEX weapons that much too. Most weapons I like are quality weapons with slight inclinations toward STR or DEX depending. Of course there are always exceptions, but blunt weaponry are usually a no go for me.

[Wubbinz]

Originally posted by Loop_Stratos:

Originally posted by Paton:

Bonk stick hater.

I'll probably get called out for this but I don't like how most STR weapons look lol, although I also don't like pure DEX weapons that much too. Most weapons I like are quality weapons with slight inclinations toward STR or DEX depending. Of course there are always exceptions, but blunt weaponry are usually a no go for me.

*bonks you*

[Xerain]

I always start as Wretch/Deprived or it's equivalent. I like how it makes the early game feel more like a survival game and I have to use whatever I can find just to survive.

[Dave from work]

Because in this day and age, you cannot enjoy any media without REPRESENTATION AND INCLUSION.
You have to directly identify with the character.

So I'm playing the wretch.

[Xor fo xob]

STATS.
and possible early game cost which i need to see if wretch is cheaper or not to level up.