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deuceyd Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:20am
Deprived has never been good
Just have multiple characters optimized for different builds. People in DS3 would talk about it like it was meta, no it never has been. It will have a weaker start and a weaker end (at meta SL) when paired up against the class whose purpose it tries to replicate.

Its good for sl1 runs and thats it. Anyone thinking they are picking "the dark souls" of classes is a fool. Starting butt naked is most certainly offset by the fact you start with a blunt damage type (the strongest dmg type throughout the series PVE) club. Also armor hardly matters.

TLDR if you know what build you want to use, deprived will not get you to that build sooner. Other more optimal classes will always have better stat spread.
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Originally posted by ϟOven Mathematicsϟ:
Originally posted by Deucey D:
Just have multiple characters optimized for different builds. People in DS3 would talk about it like it was meta, no it never has been. It will have a weaker start and a weaker end (at meta SL) when paired up against the class whose purpose it tries to replicate.

Its good for sl1 runs and thats it. Anyone thinking they are picking "the dark souls" of classes is a fool. Starting butt naked is most certainly offset by the fact you start with a blunt damage type (the strongest dmg type throughout the series PVE) club. Also armor hardly matters.

TLDR if you know what build you want to use, deprived will not get you to that build sooner. Other more optimal classes will always have better stat spread.
OR, now this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crazy, you can ♥♥♥♥ builds and just level indefinitely and have actual *fun*. RADICAL I KNOW.
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Dailao Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:22am 
The only wretched playthrough I would respect is if they stay at SL1. Everything else is pointless.
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deuceyd Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:23am 
Pure STR is the way to go in Elden Ring. High health, high endurance ( which once again = high equip load), high STR. Powerstance giant weapons, become God.
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Obi-wan Jabroni Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:23am 
Yes, we know. Deprived is not good for min maxing.
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ɸ It That Dwells ɸ Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:24am 
The wretch being a trap within a trap should be obvious to anyone who has played Dark Souls.
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Kiff Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:24am 
yea but club
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deuceyd Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:24am 
Originally posted by Dailao:
The only wretched playthrough I would respect is if they stay at SL1. Everything else is pointless.
Its the only point of the class but people pick it thinking they are picking cool kid hardmode because he "starts naked" and at "lvl 1".
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Obi-wan Jabroni Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:24am 
Originally posted by Dailao:
The only wretched playthrough I would respect is if they stay at SL1. Everything else is pointless.

Luckily your respect isn't something anyone needs right?
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deuceyd Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:25am 
Originally posted by Obi-wan Jabroni:
Yes, we know. Deprived is not good for min maxing.
Many do not. The newbies coming in on the hype train would be fooled.
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deuceyd Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:25am 
Originally posted by Kiff:
yea but club
Just go Hero and get the great(er) club lol
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Original Gengar Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:26am 
Nobody thinks they're picking hardmode though? They just wanna have a bit more sense of discovery in the early game for a first playthrough.
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Dailao Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by Obi-wan Jabroni:
Yes, we know. Deprived is not good for min maxing.

It's not even that. Some wretched pickers seem to want to make others (or themselves) believe that they have chosen hardmode, which is just not true, and even if it was it would be for like 5 minutes.
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deuceyd Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by Original Gengar:
Nobody thinks they're picking hardmode though? They just wanna have a bit more sense of discovery in the early game for a first playthrough.
Not sure how that applies to what I said at all. Sense of discovery?
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ɸ It That Dwells ɸ Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by Original Gengar:
Nobody thinks they're picking hardmode though? They just wanna have a bit more sense of discovery in the early game for a first playthrough.
You can do that with any other class by stripping yourself naked.
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Sticky White Stuff Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:28am 
Originally posted by Original Gengar:
Nobody thinks they're picking hardmode though? They just wanna have a bit more sense of discovery in the early game for a first playthrough.

You mean the first 5 minutes when you go up the elevator and go 10 meters to the church vendor that sells armor and weapons? What sense of discovery lmao.
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dande48 Feb 22, 2022 @ 9:28am 
Originally posted by Deucey D:
Pure STR is the way to go in Elden Ring. High health, high endurance ( which once again = high equip load), high STR. Powerstance giant weapons, become God.

High Strength has always felt like the most OP option to go with, at least as far as PvE is concerned.

I'm still advocating for the Wretch as the best start for the first play-though. It gives you a good spread, allowing you to try a variety of discovered equipment, and develop your build as you play. It's not about optimizing or the PvP meta; it's about getting the most enjoyment out of the best part of the game: discovery.

Once you've played it through, know where things are, and have an idea of a new build you want to try, that's when you should go with another class.
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