Controller vs M&K

[thegreatpooch]

Just wondering how good controllers are versus mouse and keyboard in Elden Ring. I'm an old timer who grew up on mouse and keyboard, and I'm playing Elden Ring with mouse and keyboard. I do have a controller, but never really used it for anything other than a few games a while ago. Is the controller much more superior than mouse and keyboard? Particularly with responsivity? Is it like night and day? Just wondering because I've thought about switching to controller but then I have to learn all the buttons. If it's a lot better though, I'd definitely give it a try.

[SeeNoWeevil]

Controller by far. You can only walk in 8 discrete directions and one speed on M&K when maintaining the camera on a target.

[vamirez]

I play with KB+M and only have the absolute endboss left in the game - so it works fine I guess... I learned to use controllers for Bloodborne (that was a school of hard knocks), but I still prefer KB+M for souls games on PC.

[Diamond Knight]

If you require more than 8 roll directions and speed control go for the controller. The pouch items are a bit finicky in KB+M also. I personally am not bothered by any of those restrictions so I used KB+M. For me it doesn't justify buying a controller when I've not needed it for any game so far. Will controller be better? Probably. Is KB+M good enough? Most definitely. Incidentally for sekiro, I do feel that right click for parry is a lot easier to depress than the left trigger.

[SadPlatty©]

Some of the controls will be better on K+M (especially if you mess around with the local keyboard settings to build a bindings profile that works since you cannot rebind in-game fully); however things like Mouse have historically been a tough learning curve as it ranges from Great to shifty (though locking on helps reduce issues).

To me, it is more about being able to react fast enough - and I have played all of the games save for this one when they came out on PS, so I got too used to the Claw Grip method (Thumbs for sticks, index fingers on face-buttons, and Middle fingers for upper/lower triggers except in boss where it is right side normal as you are locked on and don't need camera control) and have a hard time playing this or NIOH now without the Controller - have tried many times; started getting OK at NIOH, but boss rushes and stuff where impossible.

I would say - if this is your first Soulsborne; don't "fall" for controller being easier, it is when you get good at controller, else I have a buddy who smacks now on mouse and keys as he wouldn't buy one lol (basically, don't learn how to play twice just to try something, unless you are fine with that taking a little while; timing and such will never be different between them).

[VastGirth]

The game is obviously built for controllers. Sheer lazyness on behalf of from considering the size of the PC playerbase now.

You do get used to it though and i still prefer using kbm to controller.

There are few things i would love to change that still grate after 70+ hours, number one being able to bind skills from both the left and right hand to separate keys.

[Jibble Sandwich]

Obviously Logic eredeti hozzászólása:

Superior in what way?

You can switch weapons and items, dodge, use items, etc without having to take your thumbs off the sticks or use an awkward claw grip like on controllers. Objectively speaking it's superior.

[VastGirth]

Jibble Sandwich eredeti hozzászólása:

Obviously Logic eredeti hozzászólása:

Superior in what way?

You can switch weapons and items, dodge, use items, etc without having to take your thumbs off the sticks or use an awkward claw grip like on controllers. Objectively speaking it's superior.

You are probably right for ER, but kbm is by far the superior control scheme in general. I wonder if we will ever get a From game that takes advantage of it...

[MrWitz]

Obviously Logic eredeti hozzászólása:

MrWitz eredeti hozzászólása:

If you use the mod on Nexus that fixes the annoying camera from auto-adjusting as you strafe, M&K is by far the superior way to play.

But without mods to fix their broken game, yeah, go with controller since this is essentially a console game with PC being an afterthought. Welcome to FROM

Superior in what way?

It's just my opinion.

Unrestricted mouse movements means that I almost never need to lock onto enemies to track them. I can flip around much quicker and dispatch of enemies far more efficiently and precisely than I could when I was using my controller.

But again, I didn't switch over until the camera fix mod was released on Nexus a few days after launch. Without the mod, controller is king.

[zab]

I like controller way more than M+K for these games

[illuknisaa]

I don't think it matters at all. I just finished the game on m&k and I'm not even very good at these games.

When are you are you gonna need more than 8 movement directions (not to mention you can fine tune your position with mouse)?

Finer control over movement speed only comes up maybe 3-4 times in the whole game. And when it does it's only mildly annoying.

I wouldn't try to waste time on learning how to play on a controller.

[Grottowalker]

Keyboard works great but I highly recommend changing the default binds.

I play with both mouse'n'keys or controller. Both work just as good.


IMO magic is better on mouse for free aiming spells.

[Montjoie Saint Denis ⚜]

KBM has some benefits in Elden Ring because of this nexus mod "EMU Light - Enhanced Moveset Utility" :https://www.nexusmods.com/eldenring/mods/31

- is solves the input lag+ roll dodge on release by splitting into two keys : the roll dodge on press and the sprint. It can help a lot when you see all the canceled and delayed animation, with massive input reading.
- you can add a plenty of option for item swap and so on.
- you can avoid the claw grip which is not healty on long term playing

EMU Light works on controllers too if you want its features on your fav gamepad ( so you can nearly double your buttones number)

[Aria Athena]

It is well known that Fromsoft has an under-payed group of monkeys working on k&m controls, but they are equally responsive. The camera auto-centering is not an issue on controllers, that's for sure, but nothing a mod cannot fix.

[BearChow]

Controler is easy mode. K+M is not.

[Codester]

Jibble Sandwich eredeti hozzászólása:

Obviously Logic eredeti hozzászólása:

Superior in what way?

You can switch weapons and items, dodge, use items, etc without having to take your thumbs off the sticks or use an awkward claw grip like on controllers. Objectively speaking it's superior.

I love claw grip for these games so I can independently move the camera while having free reign on every other button. Started using it in 2004 with Monster Hunter1 on ps2. lol