Lore question about Roderika’s men

[Red]

Why did they want to be grafted? At first I thought they were captured by Godrick, but after listening to her again, it seems like they travelled to Stormveil with the intention of being grafted. Roderika herself even suggests that she may go to be grafted too, seemingly intentionally, but is afraid. Were they just incredibly loyal to Godrick? Unlikely as Roderika quickly condemns him after he dies, and they seem to be from very far away, and Godrick has little sway outside of the mercenaries and exiled knights he controls. Was it a strange pursuit of power through becoming a monstrosity, or maybe being grafted onto Godrick?

[Monk]

I think it is more they went to get grafted as they were not strong enough to beat him, like they marched off to their death, she is thinking of going to fight him too, despite being a coward and weak just so that it can be all over.

[EM-10]

To my vague understanding, she, like all tarnished, was vying to become Elden Lord which meant seeking the Great Runes and mending the Elden Ring. She specifically mentions that you've likely been sent here by Varre "Enticed by the one in the white mask", she'll say. I don't think Roderika or her host necessarily went to Stormveil with the intention to be grafted. They likely tried to attack the castle, and she ran away in fear, and they all became grafted as a result. Because of that, Roderika in her dialogue is talking about being grafted and "joining their club" is just her resigning herself to what she sees to be her only possible fate as everyone she feels responsible for has already met that fate. When she says "Oh, you've come to be one with the spider?" she doesn't mean you or herself have come to become "one with the spider", but rather that she sees the only potential outcome as ending up grafted.

[SmallGespenst]

Originally posted by Malcador:

To my vague understanding, she, like all tarnished, was vying to become Elden Lord which meant seeking the Great Runes and mending the Elden Ring. She specifically mentions that you've likely been sent here by Varre "Enticed by the one in the white mask", she'll say. I don't think Roderika or her host necessarily went to Stormveil with the intention to be grafted. They likely tried to attack the castle, and she ran away in fear, and they all became grafted as a result. Because of that, Roderika in her dialogue is talking about being grafted and "joining their club" is just her resigning herself to what she sees to be her only possible fate as everyone she feels responsible for has already met that fate. When she says "Oh, you've come to be one with the spider?" she doesn't mean you or herself have come to become "one with the spider", but rather that she sees the only potential outcome as ending up grafted.

yeah, it feels like a "oh, you're here to die too?" because attacking Godrick or the Spider is suicide in her eyes

[Red]

Originally posted by Malcador:

To my vague understanding, she, like all tarnished, was vying to become Elden Lord which meant seeking the Great Runes and mending the Elden Ring. She specifically mentions that you've likely been sent here by Varre "Enticed by the one in the white mask", she'll say. I don't think Roderika or her host necessarily went to Stormveil with the intention to be grafted. They likely tried to attack the castle, and she ran away in fear, and they all became grafted as a result. Because of that, Roderika in her dialogue is talking about being grafted and "joining their club" is just her resigning herself to what she sees to be her only possible fate as everyone she feels responsible for has already met that fate. When she says "Oh, you've come to be one with the spider?" she doesn't mean you or herself have come to become "one with the spider", but rather that she sees the only potential outcome as ending up grafted.

This is probably the most likely one, now that I think about it. I was probably taking what she said too literally instead of seeing it as resignation.