Name 1 RPG better than Elden Ring 👀

[Dr.God]

Elden Ring may be one of the highest reviewed games in modern history on Metacritic, but it's far from perfect.

It's missing some core RPG elements and fundamental standards established by older open-world RPGs decades ago (like proper character progression with complex skill trees, proper story and dialogue, proper crafting system, etc...)

I think Elden Ring could have benefited greatly from another year of development as some mechanics were obviously rushed (like the shallow crafting system, re-used bosses, balancing issues, etc...).

Name any open-world RPG you think is better than Elden Ring, and explain how.

[Dr.God]

引用自 LordFlamis：

The combat alone is all that matters. I'm having so much fun with Elden Ring its insane. Don't even need an mmo now. The open world and story is more then fine and when you think about the helper npcs aren't super annoying. The multiplayer co-op is lit. I LOVE THIS GAME. Years of abuse from Blizzard they can KMA.

True, if New World had the combat and lore of Elden Ring, it would be the perfect MMO.

[nfinite.recursion]

Name 1 Open-World RPG better than Elden Ring

Fallout: New Vegas

GOD SLAIN

Late response, I know.

[Dr.God]

引用自 nfinite.recursion：

Name 1 Open-World RPG better than Elden Ring

Fallout: New Vegas

GOD SLAIN

Late response, I know.

Fallout: London looks interesting

[M.T. Fish]

Morrowind. There's a quest where you have to find a dude's pants and another where you have to rescue pillows from mountain lions.

[GoreTiger]

New Vegas, Oblivion, Skyrim, Almost any Elder scrolls game.
There is nothing special or unique about ER's open world besides the giant glowing tree that dominates 90% of it.

[Mr.Gold]

引用自 GoreTiger：

New Vegas, Oblivion, Skyrim, Almost any Elder scrolls game.
There is nothing special or unique about ER's open world besides the giant glowing tree that dominates 90% of it.

Hard disagree. Morrowing could be a contender but eldenring is leaps and bounds better than either oblivion or Skyrim. The dispersal of content, the lack of defined objectives, the insane number of areas to explore on limgrave alone. I mean, Skyrim is old. And it shows. The open World in Skyrim is far worse than the one in Elden Ring.

[hemorrhage911]

引用自 Mr.Gold：

引用自 GoreTiger：

New Vegas, Oblivion, Skyrim, Almost any Elder scrolls game.
There is nothing special or unique about ER's open world besides the giant glowing tree that dominates 90% of it.

Hard disagree. Morrowing could be a contender but eldenring is leaps and bounds better than either oblivion or Skyrim. The dispersal of content, the lack of defined objectives, the insane number of areas to explore on limgrave alone. I mean, Skyrim is old. And it shows. The open World in Skyrim is far worse than the one in Elden Ring.

New Vegas is also pretty weak as an open-world game - it's mostly known for it's better story in comparison to 3 - but 3, overall, had a better open world.

[Ponyeater]

引用自 hemorrhage911：

引用自 LookBehindYou：

Better story? (Elden Ring's story is just lore videos so its pretty easy to have a better one) Witcher 3, all TES games. Better open world? Rdr2. Better quests? Every other RPG in existence. Better combat? Literally nothing.

Witcher 3's story is garbage and it's only select side-quests with good stories. And the main stories of Elder Scrolls have always been their weak point, they are all about "lore videos" as well.

You can diss on the story all you like, but at least there is one.

From Soft games play like a perfectly cut together level segments from an indie dev where the story was forgot to put in.
No cutscenes, very little dialogue. It's what appeals to many gamers, but don't kid yourself thinking that this is story. Lore and worldbuilding is not the same as story. All the Souls games have no story or very very little and even other From Games pre-dating Demon's Souls have little to no story or only vague hints at it.

I mean, not to be disrespectful, it's just how they make their games and that's alright. But you can't judge a story that isn't there.

[vamirez]

引用自 Ponyeater：

引用自 hemorrhage911：

Witcher 3's story is garbage and it's only select side-quests with good stories. And the main stories of Elder Scrolls have always been their weak point, they are all about "lore videos" as well.

You can diss on the story all you like, but at least there is one.

From Soft games play like a perfectly cut together level segments from an indie dev where the story was forgot to put in.
No cutscenes, very little dialogue. It's what appeals to many gamers, but don't kid yourself thinking that this is story. Lore and worldbuilding is not the same as story. All the Souls games have no story or very very little and even other From Games pre-dating Demon's Souls have little to no story or only vague hints at it.

I mean, not to be disrespectful, it's just how they make their games and that's alright. But you can't judge a story that isn't there.

I.e. story = cutscenes...

[kl250d]

I know skyrim is old as hell, but it has way more dungeons that at least attempt to scale to your level.

Elden ring is great, but if you miss dungeons early on there is no real point outside of potential items to clearing them as the enemies are weak and the runes non existant.

I know there are a lot of draugr based dungeons in skyrim, but the same could be said of elden ring and the stone imps, even in the ones that have different enemies in them still squeeze imps in.

That said, elden ring does have teleport traps which is an interesting way to potentially get you in trouble which wouldn't be an issue in skyrim cause of the scaling, so elden ring wins there.

I think elden ring loses to dragons dogma though

[GoreTiger]

引用自 Mr.Gold：

引用自 GoreTiger：

New Vegas, Oblivion, Skyrim, Almost any Elder scrolls game.
There is nothing special or unique about ER's open world besides the giant glowing tree that dominates 90% of it.

Hard disagree. Morrowing could be a contender but eldenring is leaps and bounds better than either oblivion or Skyrim. The dispersal of content, the lack of defined objectives, the insane number of areas to explore on limgrave alone. I mean, Skyrim is old. And it shows. The open World in Skyrim is far worse than the one in Elden Ring.

There is no situation between skyrim and Elden ring where Elden ring is better, besides combat. Crafting, World enviroment, npc interactions, Music, etc is all better in skyrim. Skyrim has a vibrant dynamic world that shifts while ER's world is static and basically a stage that changes it's background image every time you enter a new zone.
And disclaimer before the softboys show up crying about me mentioning skyrim: No, Skyrim is not my fav Elder Scrolls, Calm down.

[hemorrhage911]

引用自 Ponyeater：

引用自 hemorrhage911：

Witcher 3's story is garbage and it's only select side-quests with good stories. And the main stories of Elder Scrolls have always been their weak point, they are all about "lore videos" as well.

You can diss on the story all you like, but at least there is one.

From Soft games play like a perfectly cut together level segments from an indie dev where the story was forgot to put in.
No cutscenes, very little dialogue. It's what appeals to many gamers, but don't kid yourself thinking that this is story. Lore and worldbuilding is not the same as story. All the Souls games have no story or very very little and even other From Games pre-dating Demon's Souls have little to no story or only vague hints at it.

I mean, not to be disrespectful, it's just how they make their games and that's alright. But you can't judge a story that isn't there.

The story IS there, you're just not into the way they tell the story. There is a big difference. You're being dumb on purpose with this.

[GoreTiger]

引用自 hemorrhage911：

引用自 Ponyeater：

You can diss on the story all you like, but at least there is one.

From Soft games play like a perfectly cut together level segments from an indie dev where the story was forgot to put in.
No cutscenes, very little dialogue. It's what appeals to many gamers, but don't kid yourself thinking that this is story. Lore and worldbuilding is not the same as story. All the Souls games have no story or very very little and even other From Games pre-dating Demon's Souls have little to no story or only vague hints at it.

I mean, not to be disrespectful, it's just how they make their games and that's alright. But you can't judge a story that isn't there.

The story IS there, you're just not into the way they tell the story. There is a big difference. You're being dumb on purpose with this.

20% sightseeing,10% npc discussions, 70% reading descriptions on items.
"The story is there man they just don't hold your hand about it"

[hemorrhage911]

引用自 GoreTiger：

引用自 Mr.Gold：

Hard disagree. Morrowing could be a contender but eldenring is leaps and bounds better than either oblivion or Skyrim. The dispersal of content, the lack of defined objectives, the insane number of areas to explore on limgrave alone. I mean, Skyrim is old. And it shows. The open World in Skyrim is far worse than the one in Elden Ring.

There is no situation between skyrim and Elden ring where Elden ring is better, besides combat. Crafting, World enviroment, npc interactions, Music, etc is all better in skyrim. Skyrim has a vibrant dynamic world that shifts while ER's world is static and basically a stage that changes it's background image every time you enter a new zone.
And disclaimer before the softboys show up crying about me mentioning skyrim: No, Skyrim is not my fav Elder Scrolls, Calm down.

Uh level design is far better in Elden Ring which attaches itself to the exploration. Also combat is pretty much the focus of Elden Ring - so that's a pretty damn big positive in it's favor.

[GoreTiger]

引用自 hemorrhage911：

引用自 GoreTiger：

There is no situation between skyrim and Elden ring where Elden ring is better, besides combat. Crafting, World enviroment, npc interactions, Music, etc is all better in skyrim. Skyrim has a vibrant dynamic world that shifts while ER's world is static and basically a stage that changes it's background image every time you enter a new zone.
And disclaimer before the softboys show up crying about me mentioning skyrim: No, Skyrim is not my fav Elder Scrolls, Calm down.

Uh level design is far better in Elden Ring which attaches itself to the exploration. Also combat is pretty much the focus of Elden Ring - so that's a pretty damn big positive in it's favor.

Level design between both games are about on par with eachother, since both games reuse ALOT of dungeons and layouts over and over.