ELDEN RING
Zorelnam 2022년 3월 24일 오후 3시 36분
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This is the easiest souls game to date
what the title says, just got all the achievements for this game and honestly, this game is by far the easiest in the soulborne series, i am extremely dissapointed, the player is always extremely overpowered and the bosses barely stand a chance, not to mention the achievements are extremely easy to get too.
for comparison the achievements in dark souls 1 where a chore to get, which i liked, now the achievements are easily obtained by anyone
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Vanta 2022년 3월 24일 오후 9시 34분 
I don't think difficulty is what entirely makes a souls-like, it's more where that difficulty is placed and how the game is designed that makes a good souls-like. Dark Souls was never only good because it was "hard" It was good because it was a well designed game.
Gnasty Gnorc 2022년 3월 24일 오후 9시 34분 
Zorelnam님이 먼저 게시:
what the title says, just got all the achievements for this game and honestly, this game is by far the easiest in the soulborne series, i am extremely dissapointed, the player is always extremely overpowered and the bosses barely stand a chance, not to mention the achievements are extremely easy to get too.
for comparison the achievements in dark souls 1 where a chore to get, which i liked, now the achievements are easily obtained by anyone

Yeah I mean, it's really not. You're simply saying that because other people have.

The boss designs are, for the most part, pretty bad. The boss fight arenas are pretty bad, too.

It's easy because you can just run past most things and not deal with them.
Zorelnam 2022년 3월 25일 오전 4시 52분 
Wild님이 먼저 게시:
I don't understand why the achievements dictate the difficulty of the game?
But anyway, you should try a no level up run if you really want a challenge, pick vagabond or samurai or whatever class, and only upgrade your weapons. I always loved doing this kind of run for ds3 and bloodborne, and in this game it's quite difficult.
If it still feels easy, you could not use spirit ashes, don't use sacred tears only golden seeds, try to abstain form using boss weapons.
I also personally feel demon's and ds1 are easier than this game on mechanics alone, you might just have played so many, you just naturally have experience for this one.
because it is what the developer expects you to do
Nauct 2022년 3월 25일 오전 4시 55분 
Achievements are always easily attainable by anyone. Elden Ring has arguably some of the hardest bosses ever for a pure melee build not using summons. Games are only as hard as you make them
Sonnenbank 2022년 3월 25일 오전 5시 03분 
Nauct님이 먼저 게시:
Achievements are always easily attainable by anyone. Elden Ring has arguably some of the hardest bosses ever for a pure melee build not using summons. Games are only as hard as you make them

100% agree

ER is only easy when you do use summons. Or did use some of the OP stuff that is now patched. Or when you abuse the open world and get +9 Somber weapns in midgame >_<

I mean for example old sword of night and flame with determination buff was so broken that you really cant complain about the game being too easy when you do 6900 damage a hit.....

And if you do use spirit ashes or npc summons all souls games are a joke in difficulty.



For true melee (no spirit ashes , no npc , no ranged ashes of war , no open world abuse) the game is harder than previous games for sure.
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Zorelnam 2022년 3월 25일 오전 5시 57분 
Nauct님이 먼저 게시:
Achievements are always easily attainable by anyone. Elden Ring has arguably some of the hardest bosses ever for a pure melee build not using summons. Games are only as hard as you make them
spirit ashes and cooping should be removed from the game
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5.JgKp | Nevarin 2022년 3월 25일 오전 6시 07분 
Do you have not like a... you know... Hairdresser to tell that? Its obviously just a thread you can brag about what a edgy gud gamer you are.
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Zukabazuka 2022년 3월 25일 오전 6시 15분 
Zorelnam님이 먼저 게시:
RbdPanda님이 먼저 게시:
:insert cool story bro gif:
dark souls 1 is very definitely much harder than this game, which makes sense taking into consideration from soft never made a better game than ds1
Not even close, Dark souls 1 is way easier, enemies having way less health. You get 20 potions, enemies doesn't have magnetic attack. Running SL1 and still doing better damage than what you do at early levels in Elden ring. Every enemy attack can easily dodged and you don't have dodge the very last second. You also have a bigger parry window than Elden Ring. Hell you can easily parry the end boss to death. Enemies actually having period where they have to recover. Majority of the enemies don't have the stupid hold weapon in air for 3-5 seconds before attacking. You can upgrade your armor to take even less damage.

Its just so much easier than Elden ring, anyone who see Dark soul harder obviously never returned to the game after beating it once. Because you would steamroll the entire game with no effort.
Arestris 2022년 3월 25일 오전 6시 18분 
Zorelnam님이 먼저 게시:
Nauct님이 먼저 게시:
Achievements are always easily attainable by anyone. Elden Ring has arguably some of the hardest bosses ever for a pure melee build not using summons. Games are only as hard as you make them
spirit ashes and cooping should be removed from the game
Just don't use them and let others play, as they want? I hate you wannabe Elitists, that think they can dictate others, how they have to play.
Corona Scurrae 2022년 3월 25일 오전 6시 18분 
achievements only serve to get impressionable fools to waste more time on a given game than needed.
you know how most open world games copy and paste content to make it look like it has great value? achievements are the same but the devs put even less effort into it.

I honestly don't know why people are so desperate for achievements but each their own :)
kestar 2022년 3월 25일 오전 6시 23분 
Zorelnam님이 먼저 게시:
Nauct님이 먼저 게시:
Achievements are always easily attainable by anyone. Elden Ring has arguably some of the hardest bosses ever for a pure melee build not using summons. Games are only as hard as you make them
spirit ashes and cooping should be removed from the game

While at it, why not also remove all classes, armor, levels, weapons, spells, weapon arts, ashes of war?

Basically just force everyone to only play sl1 wretch with a club with basic attack and wear only a loincloth. Either git gud or git out.
tcassat 2022년 3월 25일 오전 6시 29분 
For me it is being the most difficult, unfair and annoying.

It turns out that this game is built on the idea of giving freedom to the player. So inevitably there will be players who will use overpowered builds while others will use very inefficient builds. Nothing wrong with that, that's what the term freedom means, play as you like.
The problem with that is that's impossible to balance a game for so many possible situations.

In my style of play, it is all suffering. I need to expose myself a lot, I need to attack the bosses hundreds of times in a slow and methodical way, all while surviving the countless trollish moves they make that look like were created by a Japanese teenager who creates "difficult" levels in Mario Maker.

Elden Ring is one of the worst experiences I have ever had with a "good" game. Everything feels terribly unfair and poorly designed. And when I "git gud" and kill difficult bosses with my build, I don't feel any satisfaction, just relief that I don't have to put myself through this poorly designed challenge sh*t anymore.
aysie 2022년 3월 25일 오전 6시 44분 
with the amount of comments ive seen you do comparing it to DS1 and complaining about something, im just chalking you up to be a DS1 fanboy and thats about it
Zorelnam 2022년 3월 25일 오전 6시 48분 
aysie님이 먼저 게시:
with the amount of comments ive seen you do comparing it to DS1 and complaining about something, im just chalking you up to be a DS1 fanboy and thats about it
ok
Yard-Dog® 2022년 3월 25일 오전 7시 05분 
ghost reveries님이 먼저 게시:
i assume you're coming from having played most, if not all, of their other games, so of course you're going to have hundreds of hours of pre-practiced skill and muscle memory that people coming into this game for the first time aren't going to have, so calm your tits, no one cares what you think or is impressed about how easy you think this game is

*yep you have 600+ hours in the souls series

Quick side question: Is your name a reference to Opeth? If so, :praisesun:.
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