What's the counter play for BHS bleed double spears?

[Neat guy]

As title

[Martyr]

Nothing. or just stop doing PVP in general, the game dev's are retarded and made bleed deal ♥♥♥♥ loads of damage which forces you of 3 options in this game. dont do pvp, become Bleed build. or generally study how this ♥♥♥♥ works and attempt to not die by 2k-5k damage dealing hits

[Timbermaw]

pretty much everything in this game is broken beyond reason

[urabe mikoto]

All status effects are broken right now. The only counter is to kill your opponent before he kills you

[VladiMatt]

PvP cannot coexist with PvE in a game like this. FromSoft needs to cut PvP entirely and focus on the GOOD content.

Invaders need to touch grass.

[Martyr]

its honestly a joke how this game with every bleed build being everywhere just straight forces you into having to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ avoid PVP in general and just do ♥♥♥♥ on your own

it just makes me more and more angry when i go into a world at the first step and there is ALWAYS AND I MEAN ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ALWAYS a person running a bleed build. it honestly make's pvp a complete joke for these braindead people who run around with a weapon art and weapon and can complete the game with ease and carry friends too the end with just a single weapon and weapon art. no magic no armor just use a good bleed build and time and you can go to the end of the game or kill any boss.

[Flori281]

there kinda isnt
unless you like grab something even longer with storm stomp. status is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in this game rn, idk why they decided to add a stagger animation for the triggers while knowing that phantom hits exist

[Dragonirian]

Parrying. Rolling into the attacker.

[Dragonirian]

Originally posted by M@:

PvP cannot coexist with PvE in a game like this. FromSoft needs to cut PvP entirely and focus on the GOOD content.

Invaders need to touch grass.

This is a pvp game with pve background whether you like it or not.

[Tenshu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fcOS1aH_4Y

[Timbermaw]

Originally posted by M@:

PvP cannot coexist with PvE in a game like this. FromSoft needs to cut PvP entirely and focus on the GOOD content.

Invaders need to touch grass.

touch grace*

[Flori281]

Originally posted by M@:

PvP cannot coexist with PvE in a game like this. FromSoft needs to cut PvP entirely and focus on the GOOD content.

Invaders need to touch grass.

i shouldn't even dignify this with a response but invasions will never go away as its an integral part of the game's multiplayer design. do they want invaders(and coop players) abusing stuff thats busted af and generally giving eachother an awful, unfun time? probably not. but the overhaul it would take to truly balance PvE and PvP separately would take a long time and probably isnt worth the trade instead of just releasing the ♥♥♥♥

[Pyro Penguin]

Originally posted by Dragonirian:

Originally posted by M@:

PvP cannot coexist with PvE in a game like this. FromSoft needs to cut PvP entirely and focus on the GOOD content.

Invaders need to touch grass.

This is a pvp game with pve background whether you like it or not.

well... its not... but you keep on thinking that

[Timbermaw]

Originally posted by Tenshu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fcOS1aH_4Y

Yeah I watched that stream yesterday, G9 seems a bit depressed about the state of pvp

[Martyr]

Originally posted by M@:

PvP cannot coexist with PvE in a game like this. FromSoft needs to cut PvP entirely and focus on the GOOD content.

Invaders need to touch grass.

Invaders Do not need to touch grass. when you see someone complaining about bleed they have been against it atleast 10+ times and or against frost bite and complain about it being so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ broken. but cutting the PVP and focusing on PVE? the game pretty much does that for you. no need to cut PVP the pvp cut is bleed builds, there is 1 options to avoid bleed builds entirely Dont ever attempt or try pvp just focus Primarily doing PVE and ignoring the most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ way PVP works before you attempt to even talk how us malding over how ♥♥♥♥ something is and saying we need to touch grass? Please be my guest, go invade at level 81-90 in the first step and you will get a nice taste of bleed build up your ass which basically forces you into the not so good ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ PVE where if you activate a furl you just gotta do it a boss door so a guy doesn't invade you and kill you with a bleed build. the game already ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ forces you to go PVE due to the copious amounts of gankers or players solo running bleed builds and killing you in 1-2 hits.

touch grass shut the ♥♥♥♥ up about how PVP should be removed and that invaders need to touch grass go touch some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ grace your self get your self some festering fingers and play the second largest part of any from soft ware game and sit there and enjoy what you cannot intill the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ dev's FIX THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ GAME and then you may be able to realize that PVP is literally the biggest thing with from soft ware but currently it is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ so i say to those phantoms or anyone with 1 tap frost build or bleed builds. please, get the ♥♥♥♥ off this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 60 dollar game, go buy factorio, and go spend 30 hours playing that game because you dont have any healthy habits and playing factorio is addicting and probably something better then ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on 100% of invasions from random invaders with your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bleed build

[Tenshu]

Originally posted by Timbermaw:

Originally posted by Tenshu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fcOS1aH_4Y

Yeah I watched that stream yesterday, G9 seems a bit depressed about the state of pvp

It could be balanced, but I hope the more creatively meme-y setups don't lose much effectiveness like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfcLJQP_PwQ