Elden Ring Set in Dark Souls Universe?

[EngineerDoge]

I'm sure this topic and question has come up before, but can anyone confirm or deny that Elden Ring is set in the Dark Souls Universe. The artwork in the video looks SO similar to Dark Souls vs say BloodBorne, which was confirmed to be set in the Dark Souls universe by the some enemies you fight in both games and one particular armor set in Dark Souls. The two games look so similar that it would be more far-fetched to say that Elden Ring WASN'T set in the Dark Souls Universe somehow.

Anyway whats everyone's thoughts?

[Almaz]

game is not even realesed and we don't know story.. how tf must we know?

[Somsnosa]

Probably not. It just looks similar because it has a western medieval fantasy setting with some Japanese influences, although it seems like ER has a lot more obvious Japanese influence in the visuals. It's also supposed to be a natural evolution of the souls games and an improvement of the souls games.

I think Miyazaki said that ER consists of what they wanted to do with Dark Souls but they didn't have the experience/money/resources to do it back then. They're putting everything they've learned from creating the souls series into ER. Plus they're all From Soft games and made in the same engine by the same staff pretty much so they will have a similar look and feel.

[󠁳⁧⁧ Kuroimaho]

George R. R. Martin wrote the backstory of the universe, unlikely that he was told to work in the existing games, so I say it's a brand new universe. I don't get it by the way why fans try to connect every story, setting with other ones just to be in the same universe.

As for the visuals, the same team made them, can be expected they will pick another few interesting buildings and rework them into memorable locations in their generic European setting, maybe this one being open world it might have more broad cultural settings.

[EngineerDoge]

Originally posted by Almaz:

game is not even realesed and we don't know story.. how tf must we know?

Devs, articles, clues in the video? Quite a bit of ways to know.

Originally posted by Somsnosa:

Probably not. It just looks similar because it's has a western, medieval fantasy setting with some Japanese influences, although it seems like ER has a lot more obvious Japanese influence in the visuals. It's also supposed to be a natural evolution of the souls games and an improvement of the souls games.

I think Miyazaki said that ER consists of what they wanted to do with Dark Souls but they didn't have the experience/money/resources to do it back then. They're putting everything they've learned from creating the souls series into ER. Plus they're all From Soft games and made in the same engine by the same staff pretty much so they will have a similar look and feel.

Yah, you are right with the similar staff and such, but the artwork it just way too similar to rule out that it isn't connected to the Dark Souls universe. Unless I am mistaken, Bloodborne was made by the same staff as well, but had a different look to it enough that it was hard to tell that it was apart of the Souls universe. Which I'm pretty sure the theory is that it was the world painted after the Painted World of Ariandel burned. A world painted in blood.

Originally posted by 󠁳⁧⁧ Kuroimaho:

George R. R. Martin wrote the backstory of the universe, unlikely that he was told to work in the existing games, so I say it's a brand new universe. I don't get it by the way why fans try to connect every story, setting with other ones just to be in the same universe.

As for the visuals, the same team made them, can be expected they will pick another few interesting buildings and rework them into memorable locations in their generic European setting, maybe this one being open world it might have more broad cultural settings.

I completely forgot he actually wrote the backstory. That actually makes me more excited for the game now, lol.

As to people wanting to find a connection, it is because they want to know more of the lore that has happened in the world. Take for instance the Star Wars fanbase and their want to get away from the central story surrounding the Jedi and the Skywalker story in TV and Movies. Now you have the Mandalorian and now up next The Book of Boba Fett coming out.

For me I would love to see what happened in other areas of the world. Maybe if there was a time BEFORE the Age of Darkness, or maybe after Dark Souls 3 sometime, where they were able to get away from the need of the First Flame.

[NEON]

I thought Bloodborne and Dark Souls were in seperate settings/universes.

[EngineerDoge]

Originally posted by Nyx:

I thought Bloodborne and Dark Souls were in seperate settings/universes.

To my understanding they never confirmed or denied that it was. But in both games there were stuff that pointed to the two games being in the same universe or at lease had a very strong connection to each other. Either by subtle easter eggs or slap in the face clues. Leonhard's set is one of those easter eggs in Dark Souls 3. The slap in the face being:

*DS3 Spoiler*

After the Painted World of Ariandal burned in Dark Souls 3 DLC, the Painter in the DLC ends up painting a new world by using the Dark Soul. The paint she used was blood.

[NEON]

Interesting if it is though.

[morbin time]

yes

[FlintX]

Originally posted by 󠁳⁧⁧ Kuroimaho:

George R. R. Martin wrote the backstory of the universe, unlikely that he was told to work in the existing games, so I say it's a brand new universe. I don't get it by the way why fans try to connect every story, setting with other ones just to be in the same universe.

As for the visuals, the same team made them, can be expected they will pick another few interesting buildings and rework them into memorable locations in their generic European setting, maybe this one being open world it might have more broad cultural settings.

Are you sure about that? I think he didn't had that much liberty as people likes to believe. He might had got a big participation at creating the general world the game takes place, have envisioned the map locations and scenarios, characters roles, or maybe even their appearences and of enemies as well.

But well, judging by how lore is once again tied around some sort of prophetic journey to claim something that has the power to decide the world's destiny, and also how it seems to have a curse or immortality thing going on, also enslaved giants once again, then I think he wasn't able to come up with that many original ideas. Sounds more like as if he was tasked to write on top of Dark Souls plot instead.

Let's see how it plays out though. Plot twists are a very possible thing. Maybe we are the bad guy dooming the world this time around or a just a greedy bastard. Or just some random jerk looking for causing a bit of comotion. A god going around punishing the peasants just because we can or because something was taking from us.

[M姆êr MïñÐ]

my theory is it takes place before or right after the great war before dark souls 1. or as we play we see the events of what happened during the great war. or we were the ones who started it and all our actions lead to the events of dark souls 1. imagine if manus is guiding us and tricking us in doing his bidding that lead to the destruction of that world. either way I played a lot of Ds1 BB and DS3 and I loved the lore in all of them. made many builds in each and did speed runs. I love this series. I really cant wait.

[MundM]

It looks similar because the nordic culture looks more similar to medival culture, rather than the Victorian H.P. love craft style that Bloodborne presents. It's like saying the Witcher looks similar to Skyrim, well, yeah, there's only so much you can do, if the main focus is on armor wearing knights and magic, no matter which culture it takes inspiration from. The difference is in the detail. The theme of limbs being special and usable by some beings is already a fresh new setting. The horror elements seem way more elaborate than the ones in the Dark Souls series, which usually boil down to demons and corpses (Demon's Souls did its horror elements better than Dark Souls, in my opinion, skelly babies ain't the same as bloody flesh demon babies in a toxic pool of blood, as example).

[R-]

no its a new universe because they wanted that jorge rr martin make the lore and doesnt need to push him back for this game

[M姆êr MïñÐ]

Originally posted by Relax-:

no its a new universe because they wanted that jorge rr martin make the lore and doesnt need to push him back for this game

jorge rr martin helped he is still working with the story and lore from fromsoft. he added his input. he did not write the story or lore. which means he just said.. "with this plotline tweak it this way to make more interesting."

jorge rr martin doesn't write anything anymore. he is a consultant on projects.

[M姆êr MïñÐ]

Originally posted by MundM:

It looks similar because the nordic culture looks more similar to medival culture, rather than the Victorian H.P. love craft style that Bloodborne presents. It's like saying the Witcher looks similar to Skyrim, well, yeah, there's only so much you can do, if the main focus is on armor wearing knights and magic, no matter which culture it takes inspiration from. The difference is in the detail. The theme of limbs being special and usable by some beings is already a fresh new setting. The horror elements seem way more elaborate than the ones in the Dark Souls series, which usually boil down to demons and corpses (Demon's Souls did its horror elements better than Dark Souls, in my opinion, skelly babies ain't the same as bloody flesh demon babies in a toxic pool of blood, as example).

You need to look at the world the places in eden ring by looking at the screen shots on the store page and trailer they look like places straight out of Dark souls 1 and 3, but way far back in the past according to the lore of dark souls 1 and dark souls 3. the characters and armor or enemies... doesn't matter.

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Originally posted by Nyx:

I thought Bloodborne and Dark Souls were in seperate settings/universes.

They are. Dark Souls has its own lore of physical laws regarding how its world is created and shaped. Same is true for Demon’s Souls. Bloodborne is basically just an exaggerated gothic Victorian era version of London with Lovecraft aliens.

The only two souls games that could possibly share a world are Bloodborne and Sekiro, but even they don’t.