Why is this game's campaign still incredibly buggy?

[hawkhill]

I haven't finished the campaign yet, but I encounter several major bugs.

Missions one, Tutorial text about lazer sights wouldn't go away, even during cutscenes.

Mission two, NPC clip through our intro car, floor during elevator sequence pops in AFTER door opens, and my character fell through the boat at the end.

Mission three, Couldn't get through door in underwater section, game wouldn't progress after defending area of all helicopters and enemies, and tutorial text began to again not leave when teaching me about my flashlight!

Each mission has these major bugs, whether it be from NPCs, or game progression that causes checkpoint reloads. This is so off-putting when compared to the high polish visuals.

[Wile E Coyote, Super Genius]

I turned off tutorial in option so I never seen that bug. One of the biggest bug in bf4 campaign is the swimming bug in South China Sea mission. The solution is to hit Esc to pause the game, then hit resume. Repeat if necessary.

The only other bug I've encounter is the C4 not showing up in your hands to blow up the dam. Turns out there is another enemy(s) on the opposing scaffolding you have to kill.

Not sure if this counts as a bug but the AI's are dumb as hell. Hanna and Irish would be right in front of enemies and they miss every shot. LOL You usually have to kill all enemies alone to progress the game.




SPOILER ALERT:


I'm gonna assume you know that the ending there are 3 choices and each choice unlocks a specific weapon for multi player. So play last mission 3 times. Choices are 1 Hanna, 2 Irish, 3 do nothing.

[TheBot]

mission two bug is super consistant with the player going through the boat at the end and npc clipping through the car at the start, it always amuses me when i see that happening lol,

Originally posted by Wile E Coyote, Super Genius:

Not sure if this counts as a bug but the AI's are dumb as hell. Hanna and Irish would be right in front of enemies and they miss every shot. LOL You usually have to kill all enemies alone to progress the game.

yeah its funny to think highly trained military soldiers just behaving like that but i think that was a design chose (very uncalibrated choice) to make sure the player feels like they are the hero of the story, but it was executed to badly that the player ends up having to do everything themselves.

personally i think the singleplayer was super rushed and not as much focus was on the singleplayer as i assume most of the manpower went into the multiplayer experience, they probably just made a singleplayer because back then if they didnt then they would have gotten large backlash. from a gamedev point of view i understand why they did it but they could have tried to cover most of the bugs somehow instead of just leaving everything. i've played through the campaign so much that i've seen nearly everything, just earlier today on the second mission my character gliched through the elevator while it was going down and i was able to walk around the map and get to the end of the area while the npcs where still talking in the elevator

[hawkhill]

Originally posted by TheBot:

mission two bug is super consistant with the player going through the boat at the end and npc clipping through the car at the start, it always amuses me when i see that happening lol,

Originally posted by Wile E Coyote, Super Genius:

Not sure if this counts as a bug but the AI's are dumb as hell. Hanna and Irish would be right in front of enemies and they miss every shot. LOL You usually have to kill all enemies alone to progress the game.

yeah its funny to think highly trained military soldiers just behaving like that but i think that was a design chose (very uncalibrated choice) to make sure the player feels like they are the hero of the story, but it was executed to badly that the player ends up having to do everything themselves.

personally i think the singleplayer was super rushed and not as much focus was on the singleplayer as i assume most of the manpower went into the multiplayer experience, they probably just made a singleplayer because back then if they didnt then they would have gotten large backlash. from a gamedev point of view i understand why they did it but they could have tried to cover most of the bugs somehow instead of just leaving everything. i've played through the campaign so much that i've seen nearly everything, just earlier today on the second mission my character gliched through the elevator while it was going down and i was able to walk around the map and get to the end of the area while the npcs where still talking in the elevator

Funny thing is while I think the NPC behavior a meh, they really make me pinned down.
I'm playing on normal, and I'm carefully aiming behind cover proned. Whenever I advance to push the enemies back, they always nearly kill me, whether that would be from shooting at me while I ran or shooting from somewhere that I thought was safe.

[TheBot]

yeah i was playing on hard difficulty earlier and the enemies just seemed to only focus me and rush me, and i just witnessed my npcs just running past everyone, it was both infuriating and hilarious

[hawkhill]

Originally posted by TheBot:

yeah i was playing on hard difficulty earlier and the enemies just seemed to only focus me and rush me, and i just witnessed my npcs just running past everyone, it was both infuriating and hilarious

Enemies: KILL THIS ONE GUY! HE'LL DESTROY US ALL! HURRY!
This One Guy: "I just work here"
It is amusing how you are left in charge of EVERYTHING!
You drive everything, you take down every vehicle, you do everything, and they can never even land a bullet on an enemy on Normal.

[TheBot]

Originally posted by hawkhill:

Originally posted by TheBot:

yeah i was playing on hard difficulty earlier and the enemies just seemed to only focus me and rush me, and i just witnessed my npcs just running past everyone, it was both infuriating and hilarious

Enemies: KILL THIS ONE GUY! HE'LL DESTROY US ALL! HURRY!
This One Guy: "I just work here"
It is amusing how you are left in charge of EVERYTHING!
You drive everything, you take down every vehicle, you do everything, and they can never even land a bullet on an enemy on Normal.

after the latest playthrough i really noticed that i have a deep hatred for irish
like honestly anything he does i just get infuriated xD

[MISTERBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB]

I think they don't usually kill anyone except if you press Q (give the order to attack). Otherwise it's more likely that enemies kill themselves rather than by your crew.

But I think this is good, because they won't interfere if you are trying stealth, or If you want to get higher scores by killing the enemies yourself.

Maybe, just maybe, they create supression on the enemy so it misses more often that it would do without your squad shoting arround them.

And yes it's buggy sometimes but it's way better than the BF3 one, that was litteraly unplayable most of the times.

[hawkhill]

Originally posted by MISTERBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB:

I think they don't usually kill anyone except if you press Q (give the order to attack). Otherwise it's more likely that enemies kill themselves rather than by your crew.

But I think this is good, because they won't interfere if you are trying stealth, or If you want to get higher scores by killing the enemies yourself.

Maybe, just maybe, they create supression on the enemy so it misses more often that it would do without your squad shoting arround them.

And yes it's buggy sometimes but it's way better than the BF3 one, that was litteraly unplayable most of the times.

They wouldn't get kills in themselves when I command them to. They more just distract the enemy while I go to shoot the finishing bullet.

And I can't say much for BF3, as I never played it. But saying it's better than BF3, when it's said to be way worse than what I'm facing, shouldn't be considered a compliment.

[MISTERBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB]

Originally posted by hawkhill:

Originally posted by MISTERBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB:

I think they don't usually kill anyone except if you press Q (give the order to attack). Otherwise it's more likely that enemies kill themselves rather than by your crew.

But I think this is good, because they won't interfere if you are trying stealth, or If you want to get higher scores by killing the enemies yourself.

Maybe, just maybe, they create supression on the enemy so it misses more often that it would do without your squad shoting arround them.

And yes it's buggy sometimes but it's way better than the BF3 one, that was litteraly unplayable most of the times.

They wouldn't get kills in themselves when I command them to. They more just distract the enemy while I go to shoot the finishing bullet.

And I can't say much for BF3, as I never played it. But saying it's better than BF3, when it's said to be way worse than what I'm facing, shouldn't be considered a compliment.

Well I've beaten BF4 a copule of times but I wasn't able to complete more than a copule of maps in BF3 due to bugs that made me unable to progress (for example, a NPC has to hop you up in a wall, he stands next to it and you press E, they will not go next to the wall and do the script so then you cannot continue that mission, and it was actually the first mission xd).

[Casual Sun]

There is a file you can download that has the data for a 100% complete campaign so that you can get the unlocks. I know for some the campaign bugs make it unable to be completed.

[MissNurseXochi]

Originally posted by hawkhill:

Originally posted by MISTERBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB:

I think they don't usually kill anyone except if you press Q (give the order to attack). Otherwise it's more likely that enemies kill themselves rather than by your crew.

But I think this is good, because they won't interfere if you are trying stealth, or If you want to get higher scores by killing the enemies yourself.

Maybe, just maybe, they create supression on the enemy so it misses more often that it would do without your squad shoting arround them.

And yes it's buggy sometimes but it's way better than the BF3 one, that was litteraly unplayable most of the times.

They wouldn't get kills in themselves when I command them to. They more just distract the enemy while I go to shoot the finishing bullet.

And I can't say much for BF3, as I never played it. But saying it's better than BF3, when it's said to be way worse than what I'm facing, shouldn't be considered a compliment.

Battlefield 3 is better than Battlefield 4, especially with Venice Unleashed.
All the stupid grinding and P2W mechanics are removed with Venice Unleahsed, and everything is unlocked so you don't have to worry about the certain items that can't be unlocked anymore.

Venice Unleashed also lets you join servers without having to open a web browser. *yay*