Definitely in the minority, but...

[thatguyoverthere]

I really don't like this game. It feels too open, there is too little to do, and what is there to do is janky, unfun cyberspace stuff and boring bosses/mini-challenges & puzzles. The story doesn't move me in any way either. I seemingly don't see what others do in this game. Why do you (presumably) like this game?

[Edward H.B]

fair, this game is not for everyone, personally I just find it fun

I can spend hours moving around and launching myself into the air to move smoothly between the little platforms, and doing wild combos in the process.
the plot is simple, but the character writing is for me 10/10, and I dont get tired of it.

cyberspace is meh, that's true, the game is also very very janky, the pop-in is terrible...
believe me, I like this game and I enjoy it very much, but I totally see why people dislike it, you are not the minority tho

[thatguyoverthere]

Originally posted by Edward H.B:

fair, this game is not for everyone, personally I just find it fun

I can spend hours moving around and launching myself into the air to move smoothly between the little platforms, and doing wild combos in the process.
the plot is simple, but the character writing is for me 10/10, and I dont get tired of it.

cyberspace is meh, that's true, the game is also very very janky, the pop-in is terrible...
believe me, I like this game and I enjoy it very much, but I totally see why people dislike it, you are not the minority tho

The writing is absolutely the best part of the experience for me. The characters feel like themselves, unlike recent games such as Colors, Lost World, and Forces. There is a novelty to going fast in an open world but it wore off quickly for me. Hopefully, this formula will be refined and perfected for the next major Sonic release. Although, I wouldn't be complaining if they returned to the old boost formula either as long as it isn't like Forces.

[Umbe Nicky]

Originally posted by thatguyoverthere:

I really don't like this game. It feels too open, there is too little to do, and what is there to do is janky, unfun cyberspace stuff and boring bosses/mini-challenges & puzzles. The story doesn't move me in any way either. I seemingly don't see what others do in this game. Why do you (presumably) like this game?

I would have liked it if it wasn't for its poorly and disgustingly created final horizon "update", which is its undoing both for the reasons you mentioned and for its unfairly unforgiving difficulty spike which makes said final "update" unreasonable. And its "patch" 1.41 doesn't make anything better, for this reason new serious patches are always demanded to sega and sonic team...

[Uzzbuzz]

I actually like just running around the world collecting the memories and fighting interesting enemies. I agree that most of the cyberspace levels just feel like mid janky sonic levels, but the whole zooming around the map is pretty fun and it's different from a lot of the other sonic games. The bosses are cool and all (I only fought first titan so far), but yeah there's a lot of mashing so it hurts my hands since if you don't have enough damage it just goes on forever.

It's also weird having everyone sound slightly different than they used to, but for the most part I'm enjoying the game.

[yourabsentfather]

try modding the game it makes it more fun and they even have original and old levels for cyberspace better combat graphics and more I felt a little like how you do after I beat the game but modding it made it fun for me again

[thatguyoverthere]

Originally posted by Uzzbuzz:

I actually like just running around the world collecting the memories and fighting interesting enemies. I agree that most of the cyberspace levels just feel like mid janky sonic levels, but the whole zooming around the map is pretty fun and it's different from a lot of the other sonic games. The bosses are cool and all (I only fought first titan so far), but yeah there's a lot of mashing so it hurts my hands since if you don't have enough damage it just goes on forever.

It's also weird having everyone sound slightly different than they used to, but for the most part I'm enjoying the game.

The Titans have been a high point for sure, but I don't know that it salvages my experience. I don't feel like I'm earning the speed I have in this game which is why I in large part like playing Sonic games. I just don't get that with Sonic Frontiers and it's probably why this game isn't for me.

Originally posted by Mike Rotch:

try modding the game it makes it more fun and they even have original and old levels for cyberspace better combat graphics and more I felt a little like how you do after I beat the game but modding it made it fun for me again

I buy that it probably makes the game better, but the game shouldn't have to be altered in order to make it fun. I wish SEGA would get it right themselves. I have high hopes for Sonic X Shadow generations though, the Shadow levels seem fantastic, and more like what I would have wanted in this game.

[Umbe Nicky]

Originally posted by thatguyoverthere:

I buy that it probably makes the game better, but the game shouldn't have to be altered in order to make it fun. I wish SEGA would get it right themselves. I have high hopes for Sonic X Shadow generations though, the Shadow levels seem fantastic, and more like what I would have wanted in this game.

After the extreme mess the japanesiot sega and sonic team did with the infamous final horizon and superstars... no hopes at all are to be put for sonic & shadow generations.

[Øphiocordycipitaceae]

Thank you for your post because I needed some serious validation. It's definitely too open. Literally uninstalled it and came to post this same exact opinion

[Shadow_The_Worm | Titan.TF]

Honestly fair enough, topic starter. I picked this game as my first Sonic licence and am enjoying it thus far, I am honestly happy that I picked it over the 2010 decade bad writing garbage (like Lost World or Forces). Unlike Lost World and Forces (which I skipped in favor of this modern title), this modern Sonic title honestly gives me satisfatication to experience for more reasons than one. These reasons include:

1. The Open Zone gameplay is pretty fun and great for combat experimentation, the skill tree is definitely a step in the right direction for the Sonic games (as is the better writing). Now, Sonic can not only hup on enemies and destroy them by jumping on or dashing into them, he has gained a versatility similar to Sonic Battle and has definitely stepped up a big notch in the character development.
2. The characters in this game are not as stereotypical as in the late 2010 decade titlles. Just from the looks of it through walkthrough, they actually have more depth to them compared to that last decade slop. Even though I only started actually playing the game a few days ago, I'm already proud of the effort the developers put in the game compared to last decade titles. Even Amy Rose who I used to loathe after the more acceptable side of 2010 decade and prior to Frontiers, is actually much more developed and fleshed out than the stereotypical "Marry me Sonic, marry me now" kind of girl. I just started, so I still have to go through the story and see for myself to concrete this point, but it still counts.
3. The Open Zone enemies in this game... well, I'm not gonna spoil it since it isn't the same character development that the protagonists/antagonists have in this game and I have to learn them all before I describe them. For one, though, experiencing the Pizza Tower of a combo on the Shell enemies while blocking and parrying their baited attacks during a flurry of Sonic's own is a lot of fun. I still have a lot to learn here before I can state the overall experience in a better shape.

Overall, I'm enjoying the game thus far, having a great start with it being my first Sonic licence. The only problems I have are Denvuo (curse that if it isn't removed eventually, it's the disaster to licence that encourages repacking (which can be right if it's done right -for example, for try-outs and games that are out of the sales) and having to pay a 1000+ rouble commission on top of 3250 roubles for a key just play this gem of a game because it's locked in Russia and I had to resort to a digital key site. Otherwise, I'm quite happy with the experience of this game, even in its beginnings.

[Captain]

It comes off as the best sonic game i've played. For me it's the collecting, the intuitive boss fights and enemies that all need a different approach, the music, the story gripped me with its simplicity but high stakes. Plus you can go really fast and nothing is in your way to stop your momentum like many other sonic titles. Every open world obstacle or puzzle is cleverly crafted and they're everywhere sometimes seamlessly throwing you into another grindrail on a smooth ride. I'm a bit confounded by the idea that you don't see any value in it at all.

[Umbe Nicky]

Originally posted by Captain:

It comes off as the best sonic game i've played.

Completely ruined by the worst "dlc" (to taxively be called UPDATE) ever created because of the value it takes off from the game.

[Shadow_The_Worm | Titan.TF]

Originally posted by Umbe Nicky:

Originally posted by Captain:

It comes off as the best sonic game i've played.

Completely ruined by the worst "dlc" (to taxively be called UPDATE) ever created because of the value it takes off from the game.

Still better than the stereotypical writing slop of last decade, though.

That said, your lack of found appeal in the alternative story is your opinion and I respect it fully.

[Umbe Nicky]

Originally posted by Shadow_The_Worm | Titan.TF:

That said, your lack of found appeal in the alternative story is your opinion and I respect it fully.

Nothing of this makes sense and it is NOT a mere opinion the final horizon ruined the whole sonic frontiers game, especially in terms of gameplay. Also, lack of found appeal a big bottom.

[Shadow_The_Worm | Titan.TF]

Originally posted by Umbe Nicky:

Originally posted by Shadow_The_Worm | Titan.TF:

That said, your lack of found appeal in the alternative story is your opinion and I respect it fully.

Nothing of this makes sense and it is NOT a mere opinion the final horizon ruined the whole sonic frontiers game, especially in terms of gameplay. Also, lack of found appeal a big bottom.

Bro, you shared your opinion about this, end of story, and respectfully so. You don't like the alt story due to finding it as a ruin of "the whole Sonic Frontiers" and I still have to personally experience it for myself, we are different in our points of view, that's what I can say about this. Unlike the Denuvo case (which really makes the opposite of licencing the "win"), this is just subjective opinion and is purely opinion-based. No need to be that harsh with the alt story, buddy.