Sonic adventure 1 & 2 Remaster/Remake

[ProVegaGamer]

Sonic Frontiers looks cool from the videos i seen, the desert stage and boss looks extremely tiresome and boring though and flat. But everything else looks pretty cool.

But anyways I am just curious, i wonder why they haven't made Sonic adventure 1 and 2 remake or remasters already.

[Emerald Lance]

They did. They're called Sonic Adventure DX and Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. The originals were Dreamcast games, and they were touched up when ported to Gamecube.

Either way, those games didn't sell a ton when they were re-released in 2012, so Sega probably doesn't want to pull ST off their main projects to deal with SA remasters, and they probably don't want to spend the money to hire an outside studio to try and descramble and reassemble jank code from two decades ago. Plus, with how moddable those games are and with how many fan games there are out there, I sorta doubt mosy players care to see remasters.

[ProVegaGamer]

True :) ya praobldy right. I hear you. I have sonic dx though. will look into sonic adventure 2 battle today.

[Max]

No thx, remake or remaster are lazy approach.

[ProVegaGamer]

Originally posted by Maxray:

No thx, remake or remaster are lazy approach.

Alot of them are actually pretty good, mafia remake is amazing.

[Edward H.B]

Originally posted by Maxray:

No thx, remake or remaster are lazy approach.

depends

you are talking about (Crash remaster) or (TLOU part 1 remaster)?
not talking about the games itself... but the type of remaster

[Max]

Originally posted by LAPDAlonzo:

Originally posted by Maxray:

No thx, remake or remaster are lazy approach.

Alot of them are actually pretty good, mafia remake is amazing.

Still it is not fun to play thing you know what will happened next.

It's a punishment for people who have played the old version.

[Max]

Originally posted by Edward H.B:

Originally posted by Maxray:

No thx, remake or remaster are lazy approach.

depends

you are talking about (Crash remaster) or (TLOU part 1 remaster)?
not talking about the games itself... but the type of remaster

Crash remaster was not good tho, they care about graphics but the hotboxes is worse than the old game.

I have Nvr played TLOU so idk.


I'd prefer make a game with similar old game approach
(but don't copy-Paste 100 % with updated graphics.)

Maybe make it in another dimensions or another time line.

[Emerald Lance]

Originally posted by Maxray:

Originally posted by LAPDAlonzo:

Alot of them are actually pretty good, mafia remake is amazing.

Still it is not fun to play thing you know what will happened next.

It's a punishment for people who have played the old version.

What a weird take. You're saying you don't enjoy going back to play games that you've already completed? Yeah, I don't agree with that take, that it isn't fun to revisit something you're already familiar with. I think it's a weird take.

I would love to play through an official reimagining of the original games, with open areas to explore, people to talk to, emblems to collect, and cheesy one-liners. Keep the things that made those games cool, and fix or replace the things that were broken. Remakes and remasters are great when they're made by people who love, respect, and understand the original work.

My earlier point was that, unfortunately, Sega does not love the original SA games. They don't respect work except for what it can provide in profits. And they definitely don't understand what made those games appealing. So I don't expect any efforts like that toward a project that they can't appreciate in the first place.

[Edward H.B]

Originally posted by Maxray:

Originally posted by Edward H.B:

depends

you are talking about (Crash remaster) or (TLOU part 1 remaster)?
not talking about the games itself... but the type of remaster

Crash remaster was not good tho, they care about graphics but the hotboxes is worse than the old game.

I have Nvr played TLOU so idk.


I'd prefer make a game with similar old game approach

but don't copy-Paste 100 % with updated graphics.

Maybe make it in another demotion or another time line.

the goal of a remaster is to take an old game from an outdated console and make it more accessible for today, obviously recovering and improving various aspects of it

Whether it's doing it right or wrong is another topic.


That's why I put Crash and TLOU as an example...
the crash trilogy was exclusively for old playstation consoles, but now it can be played on modern consoles and pc

TLOU released like 3 remasters in less than 10 years

[supermichael]

Isn't Sonic Adventure DX and Sonic Adventure 2 Battle remastered games? If they are then what it never got was a remake.

Sonic Adventure DX HD and Sonic Adventure 2 Battle HD are inferior compared to the original version.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/01/sonic_teams_takashi_iizuka_wants_to_remake_sonic_adventure

Iizuka claims he wants to remake Sonic Adventures games, yet there hasn't been anything since it was posted on 2019.


A source I haven't seen before:

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/06/sega-co-takashi-iizuka-expresses-interest-in-a-new-sonic-adventure-game

I've mentioned this in previous interviews, but I would like to continue the Sonic Adventure series. Sonic Adventure also contains smaller open spaces known as Adventure Fields. I think we've used what we learned with those in this game as well. I haven't thought about my next game yet. But I personally think it'd be nice if we could use what we learn with this game in Sonic Adventure.

[GrimAtrament]

Originally posted by Maxray:

Originally posted by LAPDAlonzo:

Alot of them are actually pretty good, mafia remake is amazing.

Still it is not fun to play thing you know what will happened next.

It's a punishment for people who have played the old version.

If you love something you can play it more then once sorry you never loved anything.

Originally posted by supermichael:

Isn't Sonic Adventure DX and Sonic Adventure 2 Battle remastered games? If they are then what it never got was a remake.

Sonic Adventure DX HD and Sonic Adventure 2 Battle HD are inferior compared to the original version.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/01/sonic_teams_takashi_iizuka_wants_to_remake_sonic_adventure

Iizuka claims he wants to remake Sonic Adventures games, yet there hasn't been anything since it was posted on 2019.

He has to get cleared by sega first to do that.

[Grand Captain Speedy Dash]

Originally posted by Maxray:

Originally posted by LAPDAlonzo:

Alot of them are actually pretty good, mafia remake is amazing.

Still it is not fun to play thing you know what will happened next.

It's a punishment for people who have played the old version.

Many love to revisit old games and relive old experiences.

Seeing something you love remade with QoL updates and other improvements is really something wonderful, though this is SEGA so it's entirely possible they will ♥♥♥♥ it greatly.

[NBOX21]

After what happened with Colours Ultimate and Origins, an Adventure and Adventure 2 remake/remaster is one of the last things I want to see out of this franchise right now.
I don't want to see yet more beloved classics get ruined with bugs and technical problems, nor do I want yet another de-listing of classic titles just because of a newer version that's inferior to the old one.

[GrimAtrament]

Originally posted by NBOX21:

After what happened with Colours Ultimate and Origins, an Adventure and Adventure 2 remake/remaster is one of the last things I want to see out of this franchise right now.
I don't want to see yet more beloved classics get ruined with bugs and technical problems, nor do I want yet another de-listing of classic titles just because of a newer version that's inferior to the old one.

I mean the ports on steam are a buggy
Mess compared the dreamcast/GameCube ones.

[Grand Captain Speedy Dash]

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

Originally posted by NBOX21:

After what happened with Colours Ultimate and Origins, an Adventure and Adventure 2 remake/remaster is one of the last things I want to see out of this franchise right now.
I don't want to see yet more beloved classics get ruined with bugs and technical problems, nor do I want yet another de-listing of classic titles just because of a newer version that's inferior to the old one.

I mean the ports on steam are a buggy
Mess compared the dreamcast/GameCube ones.

They are saying they don't want another Origins case, where the older versions are removed from Steam/other platform for a high priced remake that adds more problems than improvements.