The New Villain

[CrossFire34]

Have you all seen the new villain for this game yet? She has massive Infinite vibes and that's not a good thing.

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by Jr786Volnutt:

Originally posted by Cosgar:

Can we just get Eggman and jump on his head 8 times? Why does Sonic have to fight a new eldritch abomination every game?

Well, Eggman started unleashing these god monsters, starting in Sonic Adventure.

Yeah, but back then, the concept was a really cool one and quite refreshing for the series due to trying something barely done in platformers at the time, especially for Sonic. Adventure 2 took that concept and went above and beyond while also doing something a little different with it.

The main problem with the concept is that, much like Green Hill, it's completely over-used without much of a good reason for it. Even for as much as I love Sonic Unleashed, you know Dark Gaia is going to be the main villain of the story, not Eggman, kind of like how Chaos was back in Sonic Adventure. Same with Lyric in Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric; they just did Sonic Adventure again.

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by SHREDDER:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Can we get Dr Robotnik as the main antagonist for once?

He is in all Sonic games.

No, as the main one and without any other.

Originally posted by Cosgar:

Can we just get Eggman and jump on his head 8 times? Why does Sonic have to fight a new eldritch abomination every game?

True, there is no unfitting stuff as the big monster of the week like Iblis...

[GrimAtrament]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Can we get Dr Robotnik as the main antagonist for once?

hes been the main antagonist for sonic in the last few games since unleashed.
(and no dark Gaia isn't a villian. it's a force of nature. and force of nature =/= villain.

not all antagonists are villians.
knuckles in sonic 3 is an antagonist not a villian.

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Originally posted by SHREDDER:

He is in all Sonic games.

No, as the main one and without any other.

okay cool lets just take metal sonic away as well while we are at it then since he counts as another villian.
we can also take away all his robots as well.
since those are minor villians.

[VolnuttHeroP64]

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Can we get Dr Robotnik as the main antagonist for once?

hes been the main antagonist for sonic in the last few games since unleashed.
(and no dark Gaia isn't a villian. it's a force of nature. and force of nature =/= villain.

not all antagonists are villians.
knuckles in sonic 3 is an antagonist not a villian.

Originally posted by Ikagura:

No, as the main one and without any other.

okay cool lets just take metal sonic away as well while we are at it then since he counts as another villian.
we can also take away all his robots as well.
since those are minor villians.

SAGE, like Infinite, looks like a Master Weapon too, to control all others, a One Weapon to Rule them All with the Whole Phantom Ruby color palette

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by Jr786Volnutt:

Originally posted by GrimAtrament:

hes been the main antagonist for sonic in the last few games since unleashed.
(and no dark Gaia isn't a villian. it's a force of nature. and force of nature =/= villain.

not all antagonists are villians.
knuckles in sonic 3 is an antagonist not a villian.


okay cool lets just take metal sonic away as well while we are at it then since he counts as another villian.
we can also take away all his robots as well.
since those are minor villians.

SAGE, like Infinite, looks like a Master Weapon too, to control all others, a One Weapon to Rule them All with the Whole Phantom Ruby color palette

Can they stop with the "super weapon" and Phantom Ruby?

[Sixtyfivekills]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Originally posted by Jr786Volnutt:

SAGE, like Infinite, looks like a Master Weapon too, to control all others, a One Weapon to Rule them All with the Whole Phantom Ruby color palette

Can they stop with the "super weapon" and Phantom Ruby?

That's funny, Phantom Ruby made an appearance like.... 2 times, and yet you want Wisps who have no place in a Sonic game besides Colors to return.

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by Sixtyfivekills:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Can they stop with the "super weapon" and Phantom Ruby?

That's funny, Phantom Ruby made an appearance like.... 2 times, and yet you want Wisps who have no place in a Sonic game besides Colors to return.

Wisps are good.

Infinite isn't.

[Sixtyfivekills]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Originally posted by Sixtyfivekills:

That's funny, Phantom Ruby made an appearance like.... 2 times, and yet you want Wisps who have no place in a Sonic game besides Colors to return.

Wisps are good.

Infinite isn't.

So Sonic Mania is bad because it had Phantom Ruby as well?

[VolnuttHeroP64]

Originally posted by Sixtyfivekills:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Wisps are good.

Infinite isn't.

So Sonic Mania is bad because it had Phantom Ruby as well?

The Phantom Ruby sent classic Sonic to the Future where Robotnik saw his chance to take over and without Classic Sonic, no one can stop him.

When Eggman found the Phantom Ruby in the Present, he used to create, Infinite, a Master Weapon to control all others & into this weapon Infinite, he poured all his cruelty, his malice & will to Dominate all life. One Weapon to Rule them All.

Let's me try to explain better...
During the Merged World before Mobius Separated from Earth, the Phantom Ruby came into the same time when the Master Emerald was Forged. From the Very Beginning, the Merged World of Earth & Mobius was made up of BOTH the Phantom Ruby & the Chaos Emeralds/Master Emerald (Meaning BOTH Positive & Negative Energies of Timespace) and one can't exist without the other.
In other words, like Sonic Unleashed, you can't have the Day without the Night.

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by Jr786Volnutt:

Originally posted by Sixtyfivekills:

So Sonic Mania is bad because it had Phantom Ruby as well?

The Phantom Ruby sent classic Sonic to the Future where Robotnik saw his chance to take over and without Classic Sonic, no one can stop him.

Baloney. I don't buy that one bit. The avatar could have easily stopped Eggman's schemes without Classic whatsoever. Also, why didn't Tails help out in any way? He just cowers in fear in front of Chaos 0, even though he took on Chaos 4 in Sonic Adventure 1 no problem. Tails should've been playable in Forces, not Classic.

What happened to the heroic Tails we saw up until around Sonic Heroes? Not to mention Sonic Mania proves that Tails is still a hero in his own right which Forces completely contradicts, so...

[VolnuttHeroP64]

Originally posted by NBOX21:

Originally posted by Jr786Volnutt:

The Phantom Ruby sent classic Sonic to the Future where Robotnik saw his chance to take over and without Classic Sonic, no one can stop him.

Baloney. I don't buy that one bit. The avatar could have easily stopped Eggman's schemes without Classic whatsoever. Also, why didn't Tails help out in any way? He just cowers in fear in front of Chaos 0, even though he took on Chaos 4 in Sonic Adventure 1 no problem. Tails should've been playable in Forces, not Classic.

What happened to the heroic Tails we saw up until around Sonic Heroes? Not to mention Sonic Mania proves that Tails is still a hero in his own right which Forces completely contradicts, so...

That's not how time travel works in the sonic series.
Eggman's Ragnarok Plan in 3 days during Sonic Forces was not the only problem but 2 Sonics Past & Present in Modern Sonic's Time set off a Time Paradox and if Classic Sonic was not returned to the past in 3 days, then BOTH the Past & Present Sonics will fade and cease to exist.

In Sonic CD, there's a Robot Generator inactive in the Present and active in the Past, you can't leave a Generator inactive to detonate in the Present that was once active and even if it was destroyed in the Past, then it would not show up in the Present and Future.

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by Jr786Volnutt:

That's not how time travel works in the sonic series.

Doesn't matter. Time travel has nothing to do with how Tails turned from a hero into a coward, or why only Classic is allowed to help instead of anyone else.

[Sixtyfivekills]

Originally posted by NBOX21:

Originally posted by Jr786Volnutt:

That's not how time travel works in the sonic series.

Doesn't matter. Time travel has nothing to do with how Tails turned from a hero into a coward, or why only Classic is allowed to help instead of anyone else.

I'm gonna use Tails' own words against him, he's from another dimension as well because Tails I know ain't a sissy little kid. He WAS one but he grew up.

[Cosgar]

You know who'd be a good villain for a Sonic game instead of Sega just making up a new one with every half baked rushed title? Mammoth Mogul from the Archie comics. They could do a whole thing where he's manipulating Eggman under the guise of a team up and go all Thanos on him later.

[SHREDDER]

now that the ARCHIE series is finished yes it is time to make games based on ic. But the seriesi sh uge(1993-2016) so sega will need to make either one huge game or many games based on it. Mogul however can appear in one of the games even if it is not based on the comics. He is a alien from Mobius like sonic is.